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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:50 am 
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Gotta give it up to the FIA for making the guys who make up the rules in Nascar look like astrophysics. A near impossible feat, considering they are nothing but a room full of rednecks with gum disease and palsy.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:55 am 
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8 out of the 11 teams are two by two on the grid. So it's not even just the front of the grid that has stayed predictable


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:07 am 
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Schumifan wrote:
8 out of the 11 teams are two by two on the grid. So it's not even just the front of the grid that has stayed predictable


True, but with the old system it might have been 11 out of 11. No reason to revert back. Just think about Q3.


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That was by far the worst qualifying I've ever seen. Nothing can top that boredom. Q3 was a farce but I'm with the driver. In terms of tires and time left, I would've done the same. Q1 and Q2 isn't really better. The only difference is that the action now happens at the beginning of the sessions and not at the end. And the poor mistakes they all made with getting a lap out in time will be gone by the next race anyway.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:25 am 
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siggy wrote:
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8 out of the 11 teams are two by two on the grid. So it's not even just the front of the grid that has stayed predictable


True, but with the old system it might have been 11 out of 11. No reason to revert back. Just think about Q3.


Right, but my point was that the new system was brought in to increase unpredictability. That hasn't worked, so it has literally no redeeming features.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:30 am 
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Schumifan wrote:
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8 out of the 11 teams are two by two on the grid. So it's not even just the front of the grid that has stayed predictable


True, but with the old system it might have been 11 out of 11. No reason to revert back. Just think about Q3.


Right, but my point was that the new system was brought in to increase unpredictability. That hasn't worked, so it has literally no redeeming features.

True, but reverting back is just as pointless. It wouldn't have been a bit better.

I hope they have the balls to experiment some more instead of choking and reverting back. I don't care if we have 10 versions of qualifying, as long as they get it right. Going back solves nothing. They want more unpredictability? So do we, so that should be the starting point, not going back.


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Yet another bandaid fix to the wrong end of the problem.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:45 am 
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I feel like my strategy of sleeping through Qualy was the correct one. I've saved some energy for the race ... which I'm not sure is televised free-to-air in Spain anymore anyway. Oh well.


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I think the ideal qualifying would be that there are no breaks, but a 60-minute qualifying. The idea of 22 cars improving their time after the chequered flag is tempting. But I have no idea how to prevent the teams from staying in the pit and rendering the first 30 minutes idle. Unlimited set of tyres?
Fortunately, the previous format was good enough. Fair and action-filled.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:33 am 
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I have a feeling that teams just boycotted this qualifying


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:42 am 
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aerogi wrote:
I have a feeling that teams just boycotted this qualifying

They should all do one fast lap in the first 5 minutes of Q1 and stay in for the next 55 minutes.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:53 am 
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... -to-change
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... fying-crap
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... ing-system

Funny part is that it had to be also the teams that voted yes for this bullcrap in the first place. The change came after Strategy Group and F1 Commission meetings. Not sure about Commission, but in the Strategy Group teams have 6 votes (the six "biggest teams"), FIA 6 and FOM 6.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:04 am 
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siggy wrote:
True, but reverting back is just as pointless. It wouldn't have been a bit better.


Disagree, I thought the old format was great. Nothing wrong with it. The predictability of F1 atm has nothing to do with qualifying


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:23 am 
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Schumifan wrote:
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True, but reverting back is just as pointless. It wouldn't have been a bit better.


Disagree, I thought the old format was great. Nothing wrong with it. The predictability of F1 atm has nothing to do with qualifying

How would it have changed anything significant? Maybe a different order in the mid field but that's about it.

Mercs before Ferrari at the front, Sauber/Renault/Haas/Manor at the back. The only one out of place is Kvyat. The reaction of Button was spot on. It hasn't changed a thing. Reverting back won't change a thing.

The old system will be just as pointless minus the confusing. Ferrari won't run an extra lap if they can't beat the Mercs and won't be beaten by anybody.......etc.etc.

If you look at the end of last year, the only team that actually made gains in position is Toro Rosso...


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:36 am 
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You're not understanding me. I'm not saying it would change the grid order. Look at it this way -

Old system: Easy to follow, cars on track all the time, predictable grid order.
New system: Difficult to follow, empty track for large amounts of time, predictable grid order.

Why would you choose the new system over the old? Again, the problem with F1 at the moment isn't the qualifying format. If they want mixed up grids/races, they need to look at the car regs.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:40 am 
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Okay, i understand your point. If you look at it that way, sure. And yeah, car regs changes, we would have to wait until next year. But still, onky one big manufacturer in F1 besides Ferrari doesn't help at the front.

Let's hope the driver market might spice some things up....


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Ofcourse we knew before today there would be no excitement in the final seconds of qualifying, because there would be a risk a driver would dropped out before if his time was not good enough.

This qualifying format could be okay, but there is no time for the bottom 3,4 drivers to do a 2nd flying run. This will be a real problem at e.g. Spa Francorchamps. Problem with this format are the tyres. If they had tyres who could do 5,6 good laps, there will be more excitement. Give drivers more tyres for qualifying and give them better tyres. And this format could be okay. Now, it's useless.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:21 pm 
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LOL DERP

I hope they change it, because knowing F1 I'm kind of afraid they want to stick with it.


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lol f1 y u tryin to be dumber than nascar :C


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:29 pm 
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http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12515/ ... -lambasted

Back to the 2015 system.


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