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Why the fuck do they need so much permissions for a timing app? Price is good though with 10 euro's


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Hmm, I had some pirated android version last year which worked fine. Though often I just used desktop java live timing. But I heard they have omitted some features like sector times in the desktop version this year, probably because they want people buy their pay-version. I hate that kind of marketing. Hoping for another cracked version to show up.


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Porsche would've entered F1 had the Volkswagen Group blocked their return to Le Mans

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Porsche research and development boss Wolfgang Hatz has admitted that F1 and a return to the front of the sportscar grid in LMP1 were the only options when it was deciding how to go back to what he describes as "front-line motorsport" for the first time since the 1990s. Incoming Porsche chairman Matthias Muller and other senior company personnel openly talked about a F1 return in autumn 2010 at a time when it was in the process of making its decision.

Hatz explained that it would have had to compete in F1 if the Volkswagen Group, which bought into Porsche in 2009, had blocked its first attempt to win the Le Mans 24 Hours since its 16th victory in 1998. "There were only two options - F1 or LMP," he said. "But Le Mans is our second home. "What could have influenced it was if someone in the group had said 'Yes, but Audi is there and you cannot compete with Audi'. "If someone from senior management had said this is not possible, we would have had no other alternative [but F1]."


http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/form ... 4--f1.html


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Hmm, I had some pirated android version last year which worked fine. Though often I just used desktop java live timing. But I heard they have omitted some features like sector times in the desktop version this year, probably because they want people buy their pay-version. I hate that kind of marketing. Hoping for another cracked version to show up.


This is what the desktop version will look like this year;

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A shame they aren't offering an improved version for sale like on Android. Might have had some more sales that way.

Oh well. More saved money for me.

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so those who choose not to buy a smartphone, are screwed?


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yeah, sucks. Isn't there some emulator to run android apps on your pc? That would be nice. I have a 7 inch tablet but in the new f1 app everything is super tiny, much harder to read than last year.


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yeah, sucks. Isn't there some emulator to run android apps on your pc? That would be nice. I have a 7 inch tablet but in the new f1 app everything is super tiny, much harder to read than last year.


http://www.bluestacks.com/app-player.html

check if that suits you

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Hmm, I had some pirated android version last year which worked fine. Though often I just used desktop java live timing. But I heard they have omitted some features like sector times in the desktop version this year, probably because they want people buy their pay-version. I hate that kind of marketing. Hoping for another cracked version to show up.


This is what the desktop version will look like this year;

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A shame they aren't offering an improved version for sale like on Android. Might have had some more sales that way.

Oh well. More saved money for me.


If that is what it's going to be like with no sector times, it makes me fucking hate FOM (and all related FI sporting bodies for that matter) even more. Ah well hope the Russian version I was using last year is still up and running. That was awesome.


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Malaysia is not in the mood for the Formula One Malaysian Grand Prix at Sepang in Kuala Lumpur on March 30. That is the admission of Sepang track chief Razlan Razali


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Holy shit, life should stop because of a "missing" airplane?!


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Holy shit, life should stop because of a "missing" airplane?!


Yes, it should.


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Some have speculated that the plane is captured and to be used later on a terrorist act against Malaysian government. Petronas Twin Towers or the F1 event might be targets as they are so well known Malaysian things.

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Some have speculated that the plane is captured and to be used later on a terrorist act against Malaysian government. Petronas Twin Towers or the F1 event might be targets as they are so well known Malaysian things.

Maybe they got in a storm like in Donnie Darko, travelled back in time and crashed into the WTC towers in New York!


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Careful Omega, if you suggest much then we'll probably see it as a printed story in the Dailymail



too late.....


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This article was in Autosport magazine yesterday and is a great read. I never knew that Mansell was withdrawn, however I'm not surprised.

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The story of Berger's 1989 Imola crash
Next month it will be 25 years since Gerhard Berger's horrific San Marino GP accident. SAM SMITH speaks to the Austrian, and the men who saved his life

By Sam Smith

There was something in the air during the spring of 1989. The Ides of March appeared to have been carried over a month to April.

A smattering of frustrated students had first entered Tiananmen Square in protest for more reforms in China; unimpressed UK citizens were introduced to the Poll Tax, ironically launched on April 1 1989, triggering uproar and ultimately contributing to the end of Thatcherism the following year.

Even now the ripples of that spring reach the shore of today's headlines. On April 15, 96 Liverpool football fans went to watch an FA Cup semi-final in Sheffield and never came back. The wretched and shameful ramifications of the Hillsborough disaster still emerge.

Set to the soundtrack of The Stone Roses' era-defining debut album, which was released that spring, these decade-characterising events were playing out in a final dramatic year of the 80s.

As the F1 circus arrived at Imola for the second round of the 1989 season, an abstract landscape for the 1990s was about to be ploughed, elicited by a horrific accident that befell Gerhard Berger and was witnessed live by millions of horrified television viewers.

THE ACCIDENT
Race day dawned bright and warm; a light breeze blew brittle dandelion wisps around the scenic municipal park at Imola. The Tifosi, bloated on the false miracle of Nigel Mansell's astonishing Rio success four weeks earlier, had packed the place out. Heady atmosphere crackled.

Twenty-four hours earlier Berger had hustled his Ferrari 640 to fifth place on the starting grid behind Riccardo Patrese's Williams-Renault. Ahead lay Mansell in third with the two McLaren-Hondas of Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna on the front row.

In qualifying, Berger had looked ragged. His top spot from the wet Friday practice meant nothing when Saturday dawned dry. He had squeezed everything from his Ferrari 640 that Saturday, riding the kerbs at Acque Minerale and the final Variante Bassa chicanes, finding some time there despite the front wing taking a battering.

He would do the same in the race to try to get by Patrese and then hunt down his team-mate, hustling his car through 'the Bassa' to have a chance of a slipstream into Tosa. He didn't get that far.

"I actually don't remember anything about the race up until the accident," says Berger. "It is funny how the brain works because I remember every single detail of the accident and impact itself but nothing before. I tried steering... nothing, then I tried braking... nothing. I just said shit... now I brace for impact and just pray."

After the force of the shock Berger instantly found himself in the second phase of a nightmarish scenario.

With the monocoque broken on the right hand side where the radiator had come through the chassis, his exposed flailing arms and upper torso were showered with litres of AGIP fuel. Then momentary silence and the briefest of pauses. Somewhere between the viaducts of his mind, consciousness was lost. Then came the inferno.

"The next thing I remember is a lot of big pain everywhere and Sid [Watkins] sat on my shoulders trying to get a tube into my mouth," recalls Berger.

"I was struggling because that is just a normal reflex when you have been unconscious for a few minutes. I don't remember those moments too well but I do recall trying to understand where I was and what was going on. I can recall the pain and also the smell of fuel which was very strong."

Already at the accident scene was the primary rapid-response vehicle of the medical team headed by Dr Sid Watkins and Dr Domenico Salcito. Salcito was the first to introduce the 'Fast Medical Car' concept in Italy, in order get to the crash scene quicker than in an ambulance.

Their car, driven by former sportscar driver Mario Casoni, who finished third in the 1972 Le Mans 24 Hours in a Porsche 908, had full priority and authority to enter the circuit during the race, this included above and beyond the race director, Roland Bruynseraede.

"We could enter the track at any time if we deemed it necessary, we answered to no one if the circumstances were such," confirmed Salcito. "We just used the radio to warn everybody about our intervention, and they had to react."

The quick actions of Salcito, Watkins and Dr Baccarini allied to rapid response ensured they were at the scene 35 seconds after the fire was extinguished. The fight to treat Berger then became literal.

"Gerhard remained unconscious for around three minutes, and then he entered a state of psychomotor agitation," says Salcito. "He was moving so much that we couldn't remove his helmet, and in the end Dr Watkins had to sit on him in order to allow us to set his head free. Then we brought him to the medical centre with the ambulance, and we used some sedation to calm him".

Meanwhile, the red flag had flown. Doctors Watkins and Salcito left Berger at the medical centre with remarkably light injuries; second-degree burns to his hands (from where the inside seam of his gloves had melted) a bruised collar bone and a cracked rib.

Outside there was chaos as media and Ferrari team members, among them a concerned Mansell, sought news of the Austrian's condition.

Amid the cauldron was a man alone. Under almost intolerable stress Ferrari team principal Cesare Fiorio had been the toast of the Tifosi in Rio three weeks before. Now he faced the unimaginable pressure of having to withdraw a Ferrari on home turf.

Such was the lack of knowledge as to why Berger had ploughed off the road, at a corner where driver error was highly unlikely, that an impossible decision had to be made.

THE PRESSURE: FIORIO'S STORY
As the #28 Ferrari 640 had burst into flames at Tamburello, Fiorio momentarily stared at the tiny Longines monitor on the pitwall focusing on the unimaginable. He then turned away before wrenching his shades off and trying to quantify at first which of his two cars had crashed.

"On the human side the accident was the toughest moment of the day, but in the following minutes I found myself in the most difficult situation of my career," remembers 74-year-old Fiorio today.

"Obviously the race was red-flagged, the restart set for 20 or so minutes later. The first 10 minutes passed quickly while I tried to get some information about Gerhard's condition. Finally I got into the circuit's medical centre and I saw him there. He was OK, just some light burns on his hands. Now the race was starting in 10 minutes and there was a serious decision to be made."

The first assumption had to be that something had broken on the Ferrari 640. Derek Warwick, a few cars behind Berger at the time of the shunt initially thought that the suspension had failed but no one knew for sure. The TV cameras only caught one angle of the car leaving the circuit and that only focused on the rear. A driving mistake was highly unlikely but...

"A driving mistake is still possible, that was the case when Piquet had crashed there two years earlier," says Fiorio.

"Still, a technical failure was one of the most probable causes. I had to decide what to do with Mansell's car, and it wasn't that easy looking at the full picture.

"Nigel had won the first race of the season in Brazil, and that meant that he arrived in Imola as the championship leader, in front of our home crowd," continued Fiorio. "Our cars had performed strongly in qualifying, expectations were high, and so you can imagine that withdrawing the car from the race wasn't going to be easy.

"Add the fact that I had arrived at Ferrari just two months earlier and you have to agree that I was in a very difficult position.
Cesare Fiorio

"First thing I did was speak to John Barnard, asking him if he had any reason to believe that the crash was caused by a technical failure, and if there was any chance that it could happen again. Unluckily, he didn't really have an answer.

"He told me that yes, that could have been the case, but that an in-depth analysis of the wreckage was the only way to be sure. He planned to do that on Monday in Maranello, but as you can understand that was too late for me."

Minute after minute the restart of the race approached and for Fiorio the tension tested even his enormous experience and poise. In the pitlane he met Piero Lardi Ferrari, Enzo's illegitimate son and the company's vice-president. Fiorio asked Ferrari what he would have done if he was in Fiorio's shoes:

"'You're the boss, it's up to you', that's what he said," smiles Fiorio. "I answered 'Thanks for that Piero'.

"At that moment I had this serene realisation that I was completely alone at the helm of Ferrari. Don't get me wrong, I already knew from Ferrari that I had full authority and control on any department of the racing team. Still, at that moment the loneliness really stood out like never before."

Looking furiously through data at Fiorio's insistence was Berger's engineer, Giorgio Ascanelli. Having joined the race team as race engineer for the Austrian at the previous year's emotional Italian Grand Prix, the young and relatively inexperienced Ascanelli was now at the opposite end of the emotional spectrum.

"I remember that there was shock everywhere but still you have to remain as professional as you can be," remembers Ascanelli.

"I was with Cesare on the pitwall when the accident happened and we just could not believe what we were seeing. Then it was a case of trying to find anything from the data we had to see if it could have a common issue for Mansell's car. With so little time it was almost impossible, telemetry in 1989 was still quite basic."

While Fiorio adjusted his mind to an almost unprecedented series of events, Mansell was on the grid, sitting behind the wheel, staring straight ahead, ready to go.

"In such a situation you never want to speak to the driver, his view will always be biased. Starting the race is the only thing he'll be interested in," recalls Fiorio.

"I made my move and said to Nigel. 'You are going to start the race, but before the end of lap one you slow down, raise your hand and crawl back into the pits, pretending there's some issue with the car'. 'No way' was the first answer I got, but I immediately made my point clear, the decision had been made."

As Fiorio walked away from the remaining Ferrari, Mansell muttered something and tempers became frayed. As ever, Mansell did things 'his way' and the Tifosi's new hero pushed on.

"Instead of coming in at the end of the first lap, Nigel took his time and did it after 23 laps, pulling off and retiring the car. We told the press that there was a gearbox issue and our race was over," confirms Fiorio.

The release valve had dissipated some intense energy and tension in the Ferrari pit. The moment of truth came at Maranello on Monday morning when Fiorio, Barnard and the engineers inspected the destroyed 640.

"Can you imagine what would have happened if the post-accident analysis had shown that the car wasn't to blame?" ponders Fiorio. "I'll tell you that under the pressure from all of Italy it wasn't too far from committing suicide!"

Berger's aggressive driving (over the kerbs) certainly contributed to the accident. Barnard found out that the accident's primary cause was some design weakness in the front wing that the Maranello quality inspectors had not picked up.

Ironically two weeks later in practice in Monaco Mansell suffered a similar failure at Massenet. Barnard decided to make further changes to prevent the failure from happening again.

THE 'LIONS OF IMOLA' SPEAK
"We're no heroes". Paolo Verdi and Bruno Miniati nod while Gabriele Vivoli, the first man to arrive at the crash scene and the one who played the major role in putting out the fire, makes his point. "We were just doing our job, and any other CEA volunteer would have been able, equipped and prepared to carry it out as efficiently as we did".

As much as CEA's records prove that this is true, it was they who ran from their post to the Tamburello corner on that day, and in so doing they saved Gerhard Berger's life.

Today the trio still lives in Borgo San Lorenzo, a little town 25 miles north of Florence, in the backyard of one of Italy's most beautiful racetracks, Mugello.

Of the three, only 65-year-old Verdi still works with Squadra Corse, CEA's quick intervention team. At 70 Miniati has just reached the age limit for active service while Vivoli, the youngest of the trio, at 60, decided to stop in 1994.

"The force of the impact is the most striking memory for me" recalls Miniati. Verdi immediately provides back-up to the shuddering memory. "As the car went off I was mostly disappointed as it was so obviously a Ferrari.

"But as soon as it disintegrated against the wall it didn't matter anymore, it was just a person inside a car needing our help, and needing it fast."

"At that time it was already some years that the three of us had been working together, and at Imola our standard post was 3C, just after Tamburello," remembers Vivoli. "We had a consolidated intervention strategy not to get in each other's way.

"Being the stronger guy, Miniati was in charge of the 'carrellone', the big trolley carrying a 100-litre extinguisher equipped with a 25-meter long hose. Paolo and I, we were younger and quicker and so our brief was to run towards the car with portable extinguishers. That was our usual plan, and that's exactly what we did the day Berger crashed."

The distance between the site of the crash and gate 3C was later measured at 87 metres, but despite this considerable distance Vivoli started emptying his extinguisher on the fire just 14 seconds after the Ferrari had come to a halt. Verdi arrived a few seconds later.

"I doubt Carl Lewis would have been able to pull that off," laughs Verdi today. "It is not a bad time considering we were carrying an eight-kilo extinguisher and that our protective gear impaired our movement.

"The real reason why we got there so quickly," Verdi continues, "was because we started moving way before the car caught fire, right after it crashed into the wall. Given the severity of the impact and the fact that it happened on lap three, with a full fuel tank, we knew that flames were a very likely outcome."

Being the first to arrive at the crash site, Vivoli faced a scene from hell: "Flames were so high that Tifosi who had climbed on top of the advertising board to see the race felt the urge to jump into the Santerno river, meters below.

"The car was completely engulfed in flames, to the point that I couldn't see which way it was facing. I stepped into the fire spraying my extinguisher, and as flames started to fade I could see Berger's position. I clearly remember seeing heat bubbles forming on his helmet."

As his duty was to manage the larger extinguisher, Miniati saw the events unfold from a different perspective: "I saw Gabriele and Paolo run towards the car while it was still spinning, then it stopped and in no time it was on fire. As it was too far away to be reached with the 25-metre hose I had available, I grabbed another hand extinguisher and I started running too.

"Once the fire was out the extrication team arrived in the medical car and dragged Berger out of the chassis really quickly. That was important too because even after the fire, the temperature inside the wreckage was still extremely high, enough to slowly 'cook' the driver."

"What's quite amazing." says Vivoli, "is that three extinguishers alone were enough to put out a 190-litre fire. That wasn't sheer luck, trust me. CEA had asked for a supply of actual F1 fuel in order to test different chemicals and that definitely made the difference, we had the best possible gear to take on that fire.

"Still, I believe that luck helped us a little too: extensive damage to the fuel tank meant that the vast majority of the fuel had spilled out, removing the risk of an explosion. Furthermore, even when you're prepared as we were a valve can fail, a handle can break or you can stumble, we've seen that happen. A lot can go wrong, but it didn't".

Vivoli feels that if none of them were hurt that day, it was thanks to CEA's attention to their crews' safety: "I jumped into the fire and I emerged without a single scratch. We were equipped with latest-generation fireproof suits, and they worked well".

That hadn't always been the case. In the early days, for example at the time of Ronnie Peterson's fire at Monza, CEA men used to wear what they had at home. Usually it was jeans and leather boots!

Despite wearing the best protection in the business, Vivoli risked putting himself into trouble. His wingman Verdi confirms: "In the heat of the action he forgot to lower his helmet visor, hence being even more exposed to smoke and fumes. After putting out the fire his face was pitch black".

"That's true, I inhaled even more of that stuff than Berger did. And there's one more thing I remember clearly, as if it had just happened," says an emotional Vivoli. "When everything was over a woman from the public who was carrying a child kindly offered me a carton of milk, saying that drinking it was the best thing to do after breathing in God-knows-what. I did, and it felt so good."

"We were given a medal from Imola's municipality and one from the Italian Automobile Club, the latter in Bologna," says Verdi. "The ceremony actually took place at the city stadium just before a football match, Bologna vs Inter Milan. We entered the pitch together with the players, it was quite an emotional moment, especially for Gabriele as he's a huge Inter fanatic".

The trio also met Berger several times, even getting to have lunch with him at the Cavallino restaurant in Maranello. But the memory they cherish most was when just the three of them were invited to Austria for a TV special.

"When our duties at the TV studio were over we had dinner with some of the Berger family, and it was a fun evening," recalls Vivoli. "Gerhard presented us with some gifts and got us all very drunk!"

THE BUTTERFLY EFFECT
Ifs, buts and maybes abound in F1 folklore but in the case of Imola 1989 there is a genuine rationale for believing that Berger's accident kick-started a chain reaction that shaped F1 for the early part of the following decade and possibly even beyond.

The accident occurred on the fourth lap of the race; at the time of the red flag Senna led Prost from pole position. A big lock-up of his brakes going into Tosa saw the briefest of opportunities open for Prost, but the professor declined a move.

The restart was very different. Senna got bogged down ever so slightly and Prost was immediately through and in to the lead. As Prost chose his optimum line into Tosa, Senna dived for the inside, and even moved over to get a decent trajectory around the tight lefthander.

Surprised, Prost was forced to widen his line to avoid contact. Thus was broken a pre-event agreement, ironically that whoever led in to the first corner should hold station for the opening lap.

Rattled and fuming, Prost's race unravelled as quickly as his respect for Senna's word. An uncharacteristic spin at Bassa ensured that he finished the race 40 seconds adrift of Senna. Prost stepped from his MP4/5, spoke briefly with Ron Dennis and then left the circuit, forsaking the post-race press conference.

From there on Prost and Senna barely spoke and the Frenchman realised he had to leave the team with which he had spent 60 per cent of his career and with which, up to that point, won two titles.

He instructed his advisors to test the waters at Maranello and in Monaco on the Friday 'rest day', the first of a series of tentative approaches was made. By the French Grand Prix six weeks later he announced he was out of Woking and then on Friday August 25 at Spa the inevitable three-year deal with Ferrari was signed.

Could Prost and Senna have co-existed for another season at McLaren, even if the Berger incident had not taken place? Probably not. The seismic shifting of two tectonic F1 heavyweights was always going to happen. Indeed it had nearly taken place at the Portuguese Grand Prix the previous year when Senna almost had his nemesis in the pitwall at approaching 200mph.

THE IMPACT ON BERGER
For Berger, a necessary change was made in his driving and outlook on what being a racing driver now meant as he thought more long-term about his professional future, one that would see him take Prost's place at McLaren-Honda for 1990.

"I think Gerhard was a different driver for sure after the accident," suggests Ascanelli. "He was not really much slower or less committed but just in a more level and balanced way. He thought more about what he was doing and how he could minimise unnecessary risk.

"I think it helped him in some ways but took away some edge in other areas."

"I got a big wake-up call from my accident at Imola and realised that I could do myself some serious damage," admits Berger.

"From Imola onwards I was a different driver for sure. Not slower or less competitive, just different.

"I knew where the boundaries and limits were and I knew I had to respect them more. The risk-factor became more visible for me as a driver after Imola, that is for sure and I listened to the warning it gave me.

"There is a big difference when you have an accident when you make a mistake, get out and think 'well, I screwed up'. But it is totally different to be in a car where you are on edge a little thinking something might break.

"It was like this for me in 1993 with the active Ferrari. It was like you see in America with the cowboys on those crazy bulls getting flipped around. Fucking crazy!"

As with most earthquakes, there are aftershocks. Five years after Imola '89, as Berger rounded Tamburello on lap two of the restarted San Marino Grand Prix, he saw the wavering shadows of Imola rise once again. After avoiding the wreckage of Senna's leading Williams, Berger glanced in his mirrors. Speaking today he recalls one of his immediate memories that intertwined the two events.

"You know, Ayrton and I were at Imola sometime later in 1989 after my accident. We went to look at Tamburello because we both had concerns about the closeness of the wall.

"We went behind it and looked to see how it could be moved back but there is a river there and we just said, 'Oh well never mind, nothing to be done here.'

"How stupid we didn't think about a chicane or another corner before it... how stupid!"

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thanks for that.
That crash is probably one of my first real memories of Formula 1.


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I was exactly 2 days old when that crash happened

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Thanks for the article. Did the bbc cut their coverage when the crash happened? I'm sure I read somewhere that they cut away after the crash.


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