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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:24 pm 
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It's such a hare brained idea. You'd think after it not working last year, they wouldn't have tried again or that if it were such a dynamite idea, some of the other teams would try it too.


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Bring in Kobayashi for the rest of the season pls.


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cookie wrote:
Would be funny if Ferrari fire Fernando. Massa and kimi back together next year


I doubt the management would be overlay happy with Massas performance, despite doing well today. Could in theory put Kimi and Bianchi in that car. Could argue that Bianchi isn't ready, but if he isn't then when is he ready? He's been good this year, and there isn't really anywhere to put him before Ferrari is there?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:25 pm 
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this is not coming from me but I heard Alonso is making his case that he was held up by Massa aerodynamically.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:25 pm 
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Whitmarsh mentioning rain towards the end of the race


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:25 pm 
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Pat Fry:
"A tow is always worth a tenth, You just have to get out & get a gap in traffic.
We picked up a tow, That part of it worked. It was the right gap, 7 tenths is about right."

Jean Alesi has said on French TV that Alonso's radio message was:
"You are stupid, You are all stupid, you ruined my qualifying".


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:25 pm 
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Hotdogger wrote:
It's such a hare brained idea. You'd think after it not working last year, they wouldn't have tried again or that if it were such a dynamite idea, some of the other teams would try it too.


McLaren tried it this year, but they couldn't organise a wank, so it doesn't count. :p


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Massa is a waste of a seat, the sooner they replace him the better.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:26 pm 
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Tobias wrote:
this is not coming from me but I heard Alonso is making his case that he was held up by Massa aerodynamically.


Remember the Renault days, when Alonso was penalised for being 2-3 seconds up the road from a Ferrari? It was completely unfair, and Fernando agreed. Now look at it.


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Mattzel89 wrote:
Whitmarsh mentioning rain towards the end of the race


race at monza is the fastest of the season, less than 1 and 1/2 hour. rain is expect at around 16, i think there will be no problem at all.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:29 pm 
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Gaara wrote:
Massa is a waste of a seat, the sooner they replace him the better.


Massa with his head screwed on is better than Alonso without, and right now Alonso needs sonar to find his bonce.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:32 pm 
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RtN wrote:
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Massa is a waste of a seat, the sooner they replace him the better.


Massa with his head screwed on is better than Alonso without, and right now Alonso needs sonar to find his bonce.


True, but the problem is Massa is so up and down. When he's good he's good, when he's not he's no where.

I'd honestly put Kimi and Bianchi in that car. There is nothing to lose at all from doing that. They're a team in constant arguments and not good enough performance wise. It won't magically fix itself with Massa being Massa and Fernando being an asshole.


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Yeaa but Massa doesn't really threaten him. Stick Hulk in the team to pick up after Alonso's temper tantrums.


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Raikkonen - Hulkenberg would be good.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:36 pm 
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cambridge wrote:
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Whitmarsh mentioning rain towards the end of the race


race at monza is the fastest of the season, less than 1 and 1/2 hour. rain is expect at around 16, i think there will be no problem at all.


I've got this gp news & weather app (android) and at the moment it says rain will start at 14:00 and at 15:00 it will be at it's heaviest.


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Oh and as for Massa's familiarity claim, hasn't hurt Merc now has it?

Perhaps Massa is too familiar.


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Prost was sacked from Ferrari for far less. Making the team ridiculous on the world stage with the boss attending must surely be the drop?

And remember, "you ruined my qualifying". When there should be no obligation in the first place to have a toe-buddy/whore. He was fortunate enough Ferrari gave him this option.


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It is Fernando,s last change to do something against Vettel, team screwes up and now he have no right to be angry? Obviously Fernando has his moments, but this could change a lot now. Also, it is Italian GP afterall.


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NextDimensional- wrote:
It is Fernando,s last change to do something against Vettel, team screwes up and now he have no right to be angry? Obviously Fernando has his moments, but this could change a lot now. Also, it is Italian GP afterall.


Team screwing up is one thing, but calling them dumb on a radio anyone can hear, in an already strained relationship? And Fernando is just pissy that he didn't get help from Massa. Every other driver has to do it themselves. If there is even a hint that Red Bull favour Vettel, people lose there minds. But at Ferrari, some people just expect Massa to sacrifice his own race to help Fernando.

If Fernando can't get the job done without serious aid from Massa, he doesn't deserve the title. Everyone else is doing it on there own.


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