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Perez is 9th

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Goodlooking trophies are back!!!

Good point, I forgot about Rosberg. But he was still +1 lap, give or take.

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Dan Wheldon ¦ 1978-2011
Marco Simoncelli ¦ 1987-2011
Jules Bianchi ¦ 1989-2015
Justin Wilson ¦ 1978-2015

Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

Almost the same podium as 2012...

1. Hamilton
2. Lotus (Grosjean in 2012)
3. Vettel

So who from TBK-Light circa late 2012 who bitched and moaned about Hamilton "leaving McLaren only for the money" wants to pipe up and defend their comments now?

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I don't agree with that.
Drivers can't see some things we can see, but they can see some other things we can't.
and they are all enough experimented drivers to know this track and more, this turn is not wide enough to pass another car in it, and and not in the outside. A bit like Eau rouge, but less dangerous, if you try to pass someone in this turn, if you pass you're an awesome driver, if you fail and crash, you're a dumb moron.

Vettel was far of being side-by-side with the other car, Kimi had not to let room for the redbull, and this time (again), Vettel is a crying baby. Far more than Alonso.

When Alonso was Vettel's age he was kicking down doors in the McLaren suite, so...

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Hmmm...

- Canada 2005
- USA 2007
- Hungary 2007
- Germany 2010
- Abu Dhabi 2010
- most of later part of 2012

Want anymore examples?

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yes, and also sum up every time Vettel was a crybaby. If you can't, your post is meaningless

If the car behind has any part alongside the car in front, the car in front has to leave a car's width. Raikkonen just about did this. It was fair. Vettel cannot see the edge of the track clearly from his cockpit, and he did run a little wide after Raikkonen moved back across to turn the corner. So it's not hard to see why Vettel thought he was crowded beyond the edge of the track.

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Marco Simoncelli ¦ 1987-2011
Jules Bianchi ¦ 1989-2015
Justin Wilson ¦ 1978-2015

Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

by the way, I have heard Button being a crybaby in almost every race since 2012.

I prefer you quote every whining moment by Vettel. The total would be interesting to know, as I have the feeling Seb was complaining at every race he wasn't doing a "I'm 1st from begin to finish" race.

Can we nominate posts for "Bullshit of the year" awards or something?

I agree Vettel had a bit of a moan, but he just admitted on the podium he was wrong and it was a heat of the moment call. Why is nobody talking about Lewis moaning at the team for telling him to change a diff setting, on a car with known overheating issues? Why is nobody talking about Webber moaning about his team, whilst the team never criticise his inability to even get near Seb. Oh yeah, just people like moaning about Vettel.

You're more than welcome to contribute, otherwise your post is meaningless. Works both ways you know.

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No. You're the one who is saying Seb moans a lot, therefore it's up to you to do prove that, not anyone else. Don't back out of it by somehow blaming kals not listing Sebas complaints. That's your side of the coin. If you're going to make blatantly incorrect statements like that, you better have some sort of backup for it.

not in this case. If you want to point out that Alonso is worse than Vettel, compare the two. Do not only list one of them.

Now you are saying "man X is smaller than man Y, because man X is 175 cm"

Right on ellis.

@Ayrton S - So you're complaining about Vettel being a constant crybaby but the section of your comment that I've highlighted doesn't really help your case. Kind of infers you've no idea how often he does what you're complaining about.

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Not really. ellis' point on the previous page (and quoted above) pretty much sums it up perfectly.

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I don't really believe guys like Vettel & Alonso whine over the radio any more or less than any of the other drivers to be honest.

I think the perception that they do comes down to FOM playing there team radio's on the world-feed more than other drivers. If we hard access to every drivers radio we would probably hear them all bitching just as much as each other, Especially when it comes to what they see as marginal racing situation.

agreed that Ayrton S also has to tip in, but you prove nothing if you do not compare. You just sum up a list.

Yes.