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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:48 pm 
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Meanwhile, F1 tyre supplier revealed.

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Fantastic race...I was missing a race with lots of technical failures like we saw today. In my opinion, Pirelli deserves an award for bringing these of emotions.

Now let's wait for the French Grand Prix.....wait, there's no French GP, what a sin.....


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So two German teams in the Champions League final at Wembley and a German winning the British Grand Prix. That's what we call "conquering Britain 2.0" :D


I don't care what anyone else says, but Nico to me will always be Finnish, regardless of where he was born and lived.

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Echti wrote:
So two German teams in the Champions League final at Wembley and a German winning the British Grand Prix. That's what we call "conquering Britain 2.0" :D


Don't make me break out the war jokes. :p


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kals wrote:
Echti wrote:
So two German teams in the Champions League final at Wembley and a German winning the British Grand Prix. That's what we call "conquering Britain 2.0" :D


I don't care what anyone else says, but Nico to me will always be Finnish, regardless of where he was born and lived.


Nico is pure Monaco kid.


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ellis wrote:
Echti wrote:
So two German teams in the Champions League final at Wembley and a German winning the British Grand Prix. That's what we call "conquering Britain 2.0" :D


Don't make me break out the war jokes. :p


Well, he started it!

(oh dear)


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kals wrote:
Echti wrote:
So two German teams in the Champions League final at Wembley and a German winning the British Grand Prix. That's what we call "conquering Britain 2.0" :D


I don't care what anyone else says, but Nico to me will always be Finnish, regardless of where he was born and lived.

Why?


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StanV wrote:
ellis wrote:
Echti wrote:
So two German teams in the Champions League final at Wembley and a German winning the British Grand Prix. That's what we call "conquering Britain 2.0" :D


Don't make me break out the war jokes. :p


Well, he started it!

(oh dear)


Don't mention the war!!


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If it came from the back of a van and were marked as PARELI, we'll there's your answer.

Good race BTW, funny how it got more interesting after Vettel's retirement...


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acopip wrote:
kals wrote:
Echti wrote:
So two German teams in the Champions League final at Wembley and a German winning the British Grand Prix. That's what we call "conquering Britain 2.0" :D


I don't care what anyone else says, but Nico to me will always be Finnish, regardless of where he was born and lived.

Why?


Ermmmmm???

Not sure whether this is a serious question or not.

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Hamilton about the tyres:"Only when someone get's hurts they will do something"


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kals wrote:
Not sure whether this is a serious question or not.

He has both nationalities, lived in Monaco in his childhood and actually hardly speaks finnish... well, maybe you are referring to Keke, but I won't consider him totally finnish.
And yes, it was a serious question, I'm just curious about how you think about it


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So the 2 good things we got from this race are:
  • The championship suddenly got much more exciting
  • The Vettel haters are Alonso fanboys won't be able to use the "Vettel is so lucky" card for a little while. Absurd luck by Fernando today.


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acopip wrote:
kals wrote:
Not sure whether this is a serious question or not.

He has both nationalities, lived in Monaco in his childhood and actually hardly speaks finnish... well, maybe you are referring to Keke, but I won't consider him totally finnish.
And yes, it was a serious question, I'm just curious about how you think about it


It was meant to be a joke, considering his father is one of the most famous Finns in the sports history.

That is all.

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Ok so now everyone has calmed down, perhaps we should have a discussion about stuff (tyres especially) that don't result in "suck it" and "fuck you".

There are 2 possible scenarios regarding tyre failure.

1 - something on the track, be it debris or a damaged kerb was causing it.
2 - the tyres suffered failures on there own.

Lets address these separately.

If it was the track (most likely a kerb or debris from various incidents if it were) then the tyres are obviously quite sensitive to such objects, probably as a result of the type of tyre Pirelli is trying to build to help F1. BUT, if it was debris, nobody will listen or care. Pirelli will still get the blame, especially by fans, a few teams and drivers. The loser in it all would be Pirelli - they'll leave, and the fans are the biggest losers.

If it was a structural failure then this goes hand in hand with the changes Pirelli wanted to make and were told no, they could not do it. So Pirellis argument would be that they seen there was an issue, wanted to change it, and some teams and the FIA said no. They asked to test, did one with Mercedes, and got in trouble. So what are they meant to do there? Once again, the loser is Pirelli - they'll leave, and the fans are the biggest losers.

No matter what the cause, Pirelli will get blamed, probably leave, and we as the fans will suffer. And all because F1 teams cannot get along enough.

I should say, regarding my post earlier about what was "acceptable" to post, that was made by me as a user, not as a mod. I didn't mean to imply that I'd get people in trouble for it, more I was disappointed in how some people react to certain situations. It's like cheering and booing things. It's massively disrespectful in a sport that is generally quite good in that regard. And I feel saying "suck it" to Horner because of his statements about the tyres is stunningly short sighted given the major beneficiary of the situation was Mercedes, who are more involved in the tyre debates than every other team combined, to the point they were found guilty of violating the regulations in the FIA court. So that's just an awful excuse to post something that I personally find disappointingly abusive. Again, I'm posting that as my own view, not as a staff member.


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kals wrote:
It was meant to be a joke, considering his father is one of the most famous Finns in the sports history.

That is all.

Oh well :p


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As I posted in the farce thread, if the failures were as a result of bad tyre construction, why did they suddenly stop after the first safety car?

Regardless of what the cause was, I hope that this gives all the teams holding out on construction changes the kick up the arse they need to OK them. Those tyres should've been in use this weekend.

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As I posted in the farce thread, if the failures were as a result of tyre construction, why did they suddenly stop after the first safety car?

Regardless of what the cause was, I hope that this gives all the teams holding out on construction changes the kick up the arse they need to OK them. Those tyres should've been in use this weekend.


I don't think it was a coincidence that we had a whole bunch of failures after a bunch of debris was on the circuit, then it stopped when the track was cleaned, and then we had one more after there was debris on the circuit again.


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