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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:52 pm 
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Mika Kimi wrote:
To show how meaningless it is to compare the total points record from drivers/teams, I just noticed that RBR now has a total of 2309.5 points whilst Williams has 2751. So if they dominate next year they'll probably overtake them.


Does that count the team's previous iterations as Stewart and Jaguar? Even so, racking up over 2000 points in about 4 seasons is pretty impressive stuff. They'll have at least another hundred before the end of the year at this rate as well ...


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:09 pm 
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I agree and it's just RBR, so not counting Stewart and Jaguar.

Since 2009 until now, they've collected 2206,5 points.


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It just shows how pointless these records and stats really are (no pun intended).

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:23 pm 
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True. :)


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Antonio Felix da Costa has not been dropped by Red Bull, despite failing to impress enough to secure the Toro Rosso seat for 2014.

Portuguese da Costa, 22, was the hot favourite all season to move into the energy drink company's second formula one team next year.

But, with Daniel Ricciardo moving to Red Bull, the F1 paddock was surprised to learn that 19-year-old GP3 driver Daniil Kvyat ultimately got his job.

Is it because Russian Kvyat - although arguably the most impressive compared to fellow Red Bull juniors da Costa and Carlos Sainz jr - is bringing sponsor backing to the seat?

Dr Helmut Marko, the Red Bull driver supremo, insists "performance" was the only criteria.

He did admit to Germany's Auto Motor und Sport, however, that "two Russian companies have already contacted us".

"Kvyat provides us with the best overall package," the Austrian insisted.

"He has proved that he can handle the pressure, which is something we missed in da Costa.

"If he is already faltering in the junior categories, how will it be in formula one?" Marko asked rhetorically.

"I can't tell you how many drivers were sold as a huge talent before they failed at the very top. But Kvyat's curve has been all uphill.

"Da Costa's was flat, or it went down."

Coming from Marko's blunt mouth, that sounds like the death knell for da Costa, in the wake of a long line of Red Bull juniors who didn't make the grade and were ruthlessly dropped.

But Marko insists: "We have not executed da Costa; he is staying in our family. Now we have to think about his future programme.

"First of all, he remains the simulator and reserve driver for Red Bull Racing," he revealed.

Marko also stamped out speculation the McLaren-groomed Stoffel Vandoorne was considered by Red Bull for Ricciardo's seat.

"I have never spoken with Herr Vandoorne," he insisted. "There was no offer -- I don't even know what he looks like."


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:52 pm 
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Would you like a cup of salt with that interview?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:59 pm 
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seems like an unpleasant man

I remember this

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXDI2HNLqoo[/youtube]

and that was for practice for christ sake.


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Marko is a bell end.


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One might say that Helmut Marko is short-sighted.

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I've been following F1's main Russian journo on Twitter. Patriotic is an understatement.

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Tobias wrote:
seems like an unpleasant man

I remember this



and that was for practice for christ sake.

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My Dad has always hated Marko, and he knew him way before any of us ever saw him do stuff like that.


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You have to be ruthless in that type of job, simple

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The only talent his program brought forward was Vettel. And they almost lost him to BMW back in the days. Good thing for him that one guy is one talented mother-fucker.


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Ian-S wrote:
My Dad has always hated Marko, and he knew him way before any of us ever saw him do stuff like that.


Montoya has always had a couple of choice things to say about Markko.

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- that's not exactly true. BMW funded as much of Vettel's junior career as Red Bull, yet the Austrian company seems to have received all the credit. In fact BMW picked him up before Red Bull.

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kals wrote:
Ian-S wrote:
My Dad has always hated Marko, and he knew him way before any of us ever saw him do stuff like that.


Montoya has always had a couple of choice things to say about Markko.

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- that's not exactly true. BMW funded as much of Vettel's junior career as Red Bull, yet the Austrian company seems to have received all the credit. In fact BMW picked him up before Red Bull.


Didn't knew they funded him. Knew he did FBMW and with that win he won a test with Williams. I thought he was since that moment on the radar of BMW. But if true, Marko is an even worse talent than I initally thought :lol: .


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Pirelli is threatening to quit F1 over the issues with testing - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/110858

I know it is probably an empty gesture mixed with a negotiation tactic but I would dearly love to see this happen. I'm in full support of Pirelli.

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Tobias wrote:
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I remember this



and that was for practice for christ sake.


Maybe your memory will be slightly clearer now ;)

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Well clever old me saw the post where the code wasn't working so quoted it to fix, without bothering to scroll down to realise you'd already done the exact same thing, therefore wasting everyone's time.
Ho hum.

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