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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:28 pm 
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Well, the idea behind sponsorship is still to generate money through advertising ... whether the company has any money in the first place, that is still the aim. Unfortunately, seeing a shot of Ross Brawn with BB on his headphones isn't going to make people want the phones any more ...


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This season has been pretty boring. I think the last full F1 race I watched was Spain...and before that Malaysia. Looking forward to 2014. :p


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:08 pm 
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Hungary was the most exciting of the latest races. Enough said.


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Season was pretty good until the summer break, where everything seemed to conspire to bring us crappier racing.

I think the teams idiocy over tyres has led to Pirelli bringing a much safer and therefor less racy tyre compound to the last few races, but there's no denying Red Bull have made a massive step forward over the summer whereas their main rivals Mercedes and Ferrari have not moved on from their pre-summer pace.

Korea is going to be shit no matter what happens (was shit last year during the best F1 season in memory), Japan can be tast but, like Spa, if it's going to be shit at least it's a great track to watch nothing happen on.
Abu Daubi, you'd think would be crap but put on a good race last year, so is up in the air.
India, ehhhhh.....but then Austin and Brazil I expect to be great races just because of the tracks.

Prediction: Ferrari and Mercedes will win one more race each.

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It's the same as the last couple of years after the summer break. The tyres are not a challenge anymore, we only get 1 or 2 stop races. And Vettel is in top form on his favourite tracks. Last year we were lucky Alonso had built a big lead before the summer break. This year Vettel already had a big lead just as in 2011.

Pirelli need to bring softer tyres to these races, and harder tyres in the early season races


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cookie wrote:
It's the same as the last couple of years after the summer break. The tyres are not a challenge anymore, we only get 1 or 2 stop races. And Vettel is in top form on his favourite tracks. Last year we were lucky Alonso had built a big lead before the summer break. This year Vettel already had a big lead just as in 2011.

Pirelli need to bring softer tyres to these races, and harder tyres in the early season races


It's not exactly that they bring soft tyres at the early races. Barcelona had the hardest two compounds, as did Sepang. Bahrain had soft and hard, Shanghai soft and medium. Melbourne had supersoft and medium.

If the calendar was ran in inverted order, we would probably have cracking races at Korea and India, then the most boring ones in Sepang, Shanghai and Bahrain.


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Massa to DTM? Been spotted talking to Toto Wolf apparently....

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If he was going to go into a touring car type series, I'd have thought it would be Brazilian stock cars so he can be at home

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Bring back pre Silverstone tyres, imo.

Anyone heard the changes planned for Mexico City? I heard a layout change?

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Speedworx wrote:
Bring back pre Silverstone tyres, imo.

Anyone heard the changes planned for Mexico City? I heard a layout change?



Bring back the tyres from 2012


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alex1369 wrote:
Bring back the tyres from 2012


In the early season there were lots of pit stops caused by teams not fully understanding the tyres and degradation. Teams, drivers and fans complained. Mid-season onwards the teams understood the tyres more, the degradation wasn't as heavy and the races weren't as exciting. Fans complained.

Now the question is... am I talking about 2012 or 2013...?

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Ok then pre Silverstone 2013


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The same thing would have happened.

Red Bull was already in a strong position, as shown by Malaysia, Bahrain & Canada. Ferrari had good performances on the front limited circuits and that was about it.

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Speedworx wrote:
Anyone heard the changes planned for Mexico City? I heard a layout change?


http://adamcooperf1.com/2013/09/23/new- ... -calendar/
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Meanwhile Mexico is set to be confirmed for November 2014. Charlie Whiting and a Tilke representative visited the Mexico City venue recently and plans for revisions to the track – including moving the famous esses towards the infield to create more run-off – are in hand. The promoters also want to build a new pit complex.


Pic from Luis Manuel López twitter page:
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"Así es como quedaría el AHR para el GP de México, como ven? "
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Turns 1-9 seem to be where the changes are, Turns 7/8 are gone & turn 13 looks like its been moved over to the left & is now 2 kinks with a straght inbetween.

Also looks like there going to use the stadium layout rather then the full peraltada?


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All I remember from the many Champcar races I saw there.

Stadium layout: No overtaking

Chicane before Peraltada=peraltada becomes an acceleration zone=overtaking.

I also remember some shoddy as hell directing but at least that won't be a factor with FOM around.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:18 am 
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the revisions don't look all that bad apart from the stadium section


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Why must Tilke ruin every racetrack in the world?!

Removing turns 7 and 8 and reprofiling the turn 13 ruins the flow of the Esses, which will probably get ruined even more with infinite tarmac run-offs all around. The stadium section is going to be useless, ruining the flow even more.

Wouldn't it be better to send few hundred Mexicans to Bahrain and call that the Mexican GP? It would have many positive effects, good old Mexico City track would be saved, Mexico would save money, Bahrain would get bigger crowds and they would still have their race but with other name (no human activists in every corner).

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I can't believe they're seriously proposing that Mexicans do all that work in one year ... it's crazy. [/lazy Mexican stereotype]


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NVirkkula wrote:
Why must Tilke ruin every racetrack in the world?!



When Tilke is given free reign this is what he comes up with


You can't blame him for doing what the FIA requires and the client wants

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That track looks amazing. Take note, FIA. Narrow, fast, amazing elevation changes, enough run off to avoid huge accidents, yet not so much that you can't get into trouble. *sigh*


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