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kals
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Look again, you only bolded 2010...

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Did he have a better car though? Definitely in 2011, but in 2010 and 2012 there were large sections of the seasons where the McLaren was easily equal if not at times better.

Looking only at the results or the stats is completely misleading and as I've already said, stats can say whatever you want them to say. Looking at individual performances through 2012 for instance, Button was extremely poor. As has been mentioned, after his win in Australia Button had a very poor run through to Belgium. Webber on the other hand had how many reliability issues, with KERS amongst other things?

Both Red Bull drivers finished ahead of both McLaren drivers in the 2010 championship, yet you're questioning if the Red Bull was better. Are we now saying Webber is better than Hamilton? Then we really have to revise that earlier list.


lol at the rest of your rant.

I'm done with this conversation as we're not going anywhere.

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Felipe Massa confirms he won't be at Ferrari next year.

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I feel a bit sorry for Massa but not many get to drive for Ferrari and all things must end.
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Jonny wrote:
I feel a bit sorry for Massa but not many get to drive for Ferrari and all things must end.


Nelson Piquet wrote:
I don’t feel sorry for no one.

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He was at Ferrari for so long that some of us were still quite young when he joined.
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Pits to Kimi: "Kimi, Alonso is faster than you. Can you understand you got the message?"
Kimi to Pits: "Leave me alone, I know what I'm doing"
Alonso: "This is ridiculous!"

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Jonny wrote:
He was at Ferrari for so long that some of us were still quite young when he joined.


I realise that and I'm not trying to be insensitive as he is a popular character, but this announcement is a couple of years too late.

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Pits to Kimi: "Kimi, Alonso is faster than you. Can you understand you got the message?"
Kimi to Pits: "Leave me alone, I know what I'm doing"
Alonso: "This is ridiculous!"

This can be fun.


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Kimi Raikkonen & Rob Smedley?

Please can this have its own feed.

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I can't see Rob putting up with that, tbh. Time for a promotion.

One more thing left to do and win at Interlagos.

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Assuming that the Raikkonen deal will be confirmed tomorrow, it means that Luca diM has had to horribly backtrack and re-hire a guy who he paid $17m to go and visit the ditches of the world in 2010.

How sweet.

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I Will believe the deal hen Ferrari announces it. Still believe it Will not be kimi.
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Finally Ferrari ditches one of the worst drivers in history.....

Alonso - Raikonen combo is going to be fun but somehow I can see them ditch Alonso as well.
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I hope Massa will leave F1 instead of taking some young talent's seat
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Massa-Sirotkin would be a brilliant pairing. Felipe comes full circle in an environment where he can put his head back together.

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Tobias wrote:
I Will believe the deal hen Ferrari announces it. Still believe it Will not be kimi.


This is what Mr Domenicali just posted on his twitter page.

http://pht.sg/in/u5V5MENE9X
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I still think Alonso & Raikkonen would have been the Line-up at Ferrari sooner had Massa not had the accident in 2009.

If that does prove to be the line-up its gunna be great watching the 2 of them push each other.


BBC seems pretty sure about it,
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Kimi Raikkonen to join Ferrari as Fernando Alonso’s team-mate,
Kimi Raikkonen will join Fernando Alonso at Ferrari in 2014.

The Finn, who won the world title with Ferrari in 2007 but was replaced by Alonso at the end of 2009, has signed a one-year deal with an option for 2015.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24042352
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I dunno about pushing each other. I could see this as Kimi cashing out again.

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