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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:57 am 
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I have no issues with Todt, he's not personally getting involved in series like Mosley used to


That's precisely the problem for many.

Almost September and no Concorde Agreement, no tyre supplier for 2014 and no calendar yet..

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Juihi wrote:
I have no issues with Todt, he's not personally getting involved in series like Mosley used to and just seems to be getting on with the job.


What is the job of the head of the international racing federation if it's not being involved in racing series first-hand?


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Todt's period as President of FIA started with such fanfare and attention thanks to his time with Ferrari, but in all honesty his time as President has been very quiet. I'm not sure what he has achieved or if he has achieved anything.

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Todt's period as President of FIA started with such fanfare and attention thanks to his time with Ferrari, but in all honesty his time as President has been very quiet. I'm not sure what he has achieved or if he has achieved anything.



well there haven't been any leaks of him doing a gestapo S&M party......quite an achievement


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And he deserves a pat on the back for that :thumbsup:

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kals wrote:
Todt's period as President of FIA started with such fanfare and attention thanks to his time with Ferrari, but in all honesty his time as President has been very quiet. I'm not sure what he has achieved or if he has achieved anything.


Brought Pirelli onboard, that's all I can think of. But now he's failing to manage the Pirelli situation, so yeah..

WRC is a mess, and I don't like the FIA involvement with the ACO.


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Don't forget that he's appointed Gerhard Berger to kill off any international junior formulae not affiliated with the FIA or FOM.

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kals wrote:
And he deserves a pat on the back for that :thumbsup:

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Sorry. I'm getting him confused with Max


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need to go a bit lower for Max...


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Depends how low you're bending down... ;)

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Interesting graphic showing 1st lap performance so far

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Does it shows that Massa is a poor qualifier?


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Vettel and Alonso only 2 never to have lost a spot on lap 1 this year.

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Vettel and Alonso only 2 never to have lost a spot on lap 1 this year.

Nice catch, didn't see that one.


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Judging by that graph, Vettel needs to show his Red Bull mates how to start a race.

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I find it astounding Vergne hasn't gained a place all year.


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Sutil has lost more than webber. Was there one incident I'm forgetting, or is he consistently bad?

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Bahrain probably accounts for 2/3 of that.


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Hamilton also has the highest average starting place though, so less places to gain.


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Whereas Alonso tends to start lower end of top 10, which helps his figures. At Spa alone he was able to gain 4 or 5 places on lap 1.

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