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Who wins 2012 Formula One Driver's Championsip?
Sebastian Vettel 65%  65%  [ 64 ]
Fernando Alonso 35%  35%  [ 34 ]
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:46 am 
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Oh, well in that case Charlie Sale (the Mail's F1 writer and reporter of some of the biggest bullshit stories in F1, as you'd expect) stole it from you :p

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Will Buxton on Speed made the same claims about the Vettel pass.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:13 am 
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Not that it adds anything to the conversation or this thread but I think Jake and Simon are good mates. (At least from a photo I saw a while back on Jake's Twitter.)

I suppose Lee will be Jake's permanent replacement.


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That's how lucky Vettel was.


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Gaara wrote:
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That's how lucky Vettel was.


not even a puncture 8O


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That's an amazing photo. It also shows how unlucky Perez was, wrong place and wrong time.

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Gaara wrote:
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That's how lucky Vettel was.


That the Suspension holded on is amazing 8O


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this doesnt seem the Kobayashi overtake.



another case to debate? :?


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Vettel was already completely ahead by the time they entered the yellow flag zone.

Besides, he didn't really have a choice. The HRT just pulled over and let him through. He didn't come off the racing line to pass.

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It'd be more dangerous for Vettel to slam on the brakes there. And you're allowed to pass in circumstances like that. Wasn't for position, HRT moved. No problem.

Neither case actually requires debate, as they were both fine. Even Ferrari agreed.


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Gaara wrote:
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That's how lucky Vettel was.



How much did Ferrari promise for Bruno to crash out Vettel? He sure did have a go on Vettel's Red Bull, on both rear corners! 8O

Remember how Alex Caffi's car lost it's whole gearbox after a contact to barriers at Monaco? It's amazing that everything in the Red Bull held up the impacts and Vettel was able to finish the race.

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Gaara wrote:
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That's how lucky Vettel was.



How much did Ferrari promise for Bruno to crash out Vettel? He sure did have a go on Vettel's Red Bull, on both rear corners! 8O

Remember how Alex Caffi's car lost it's whole gearbox after a contact to barriers at Monaco? It's amazing that everything in the Red Bull held up the impacts and Vettel was able to finish the race.


just to understand: when Alonso and Raikkonen collided in japan, Alonso was in front but was his fault cause he cut Raikkonen line, that's what i've been told. Now we have Vettel in front cutting Senna's line and the blame is on senna ( wich was payed by ferrari for crashing him out 8O ). I'll never understand the way people judge episodes in racing.


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That blighter Senna didn't do the job properly if you ask me.

Yes I'm being ironic in response to some of the unbelievable things I'm reading in these TBK Brazilian Grand Prix threads.


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NVirkkula wrote:
Gaara wrote:
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That's how lucky Vettel was.



How much did Ferrari promise for Bruno to crash out Vettel? He sure did have a go on Vettel's Red Bull, on both rear corners! 8O


You do realize that it was Vettel's fault don't you? Senna was completely innocent.


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Vettel should have realised someone would stick their nose in there and taken the wide line, not the normal raceline.


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That blighter Senna didn't do the job properly if you ask me.

Yes I'm being ironic in response to some of the unbelievable things I'm reading in these TBK Brazilian Grand Prix threads.


You think it's bad here?

There's about 5 pages worth of shite on Atlas about Vettel 'illegally' passing Kamui under the hazard flag.

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That blighter Senna didn't do the job properly if you ask me.

Yes I'm being ironic in response to some of the unbelievable things I'm reading in these TBK Brazilian Grand Prix threads.


You think it's bad here?

There's about 5 pages worth of shite on Atlas about Vettel 'illegally' passing Kamui under the hazard flag.


If you've ever looked at the Scuderia.net forums you'd die laughing. They had a huge conspiracy theory that Lotus wanted RBR to win the title due to Renault engines, so took out Alonso on purpose at Spa and Suzuka. I shit you not.

This is probably one of the more neutral forums. Ten Tenths is maybe the best in that regard, but they ban you if you even look at someone the wrong way and it just isn't fun.


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This is the only forum I come to. I wonder if there are many others like me.


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I used to visit Ten Tenths, but when I got a board warning for mentioning Penis Boy (rFactor wrecker extraordinaire) I decided that it was no fun. Only forum I really visit here. Unless Reddit counts.


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Cash wrote:
This is the only forum I come to. I wonder if there are many others like me.


I'm the same ;). Found it because I liked the crash video's, stayed so I could read the discussions :).

On the Senna/Vettel clash, I'm pretty sure it's Vettels fault. He's on the outside, going 3 wide into a turn and still expects to get the apex. Poor Senna for finishing (probably) his last GP in this fashion.


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