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What will happen at this weekend's race?
Vettel will become World Champion 7%  7%  [ 17 ]
Alonso will retake the lead in Championship 6%  6%  [ 16 ]
Hamilton will suffer from McLaren reliability 6%  6%  [ 15 ]
Mercedes will continue their pointless end to the season 12%  12%  [ 30 ]
Grosjean will screw up on lap one 4%  4%  [ 11 ]
Maldonado will find someone or something to hit 8%  8%  [ 21 ]
TBK'ers will complain about the circuit and endless run off 20%  20%  [ 50 ]
The race will be incredible 6%  6%  [ 16 ]
The race will be boring 9%  9%  [ 23 ]
Kimi will win again 4%  4%  [ 9 ]
NASCAR will be more interesting 6%  6%  [ 14 ]
Go Blue Deuce 11%  11%  [ 27 ]
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Heikki driving like someone who won't be in the sport next season.

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HRT not within 107% of fastest practice time, 7 seconds off the pace. I know it's only practice but somehow I dont see them racing, not good for any potential buyers/sponsors.
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Friendly reminder that if Vettel wins and Alonso is beaten by Webber and the McLarens, Vettel is champion.

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Massa given advice on avoiding locking up into T1 ... goes for another lap, locks up into T1.
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And Schumi is overtaken by someone who was just a toddler when he took to the grid for the 1991 Belgian GP.

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Fox wrote:
Alonso and Massa are ready for the Battle or what?! :? :lol: :lol:

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And the equipment equal for both, just like the car development. :D
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Drama on the track!!!


Someone shoot JR?

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Everyone knows it was eh.....the random guest star.
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osella 1986 wrote:
HRT not within 107% of fastest practice time, 7 seconds off the pace. I know it's only practice but somehow I dont see them racing, not good for any potential buyers/sponsors.


Even the Mclaren are 1 sec off Vettel.

On onboard main channel, they showed the "race simulations" of Webber, then Schumacher, then Vettel to the end. The RBRs are massively faster throught corners. Ok, Schumacher was on primes while both RBRs were on options but if fuel loads are similar, Mercedes seems like a HRT compared to Red Bull. For instance, Vettel and Webber were doing slight lifts through T16-18 and cornering at minimum of 210kmh while Schumacher was braking quite a lot there and cornering at min of 180kmh. Just to mention one corner as example.

Red Bull, in this track, maybe will be so much faster than the others as it was in 2010
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Here's a list I made while watching both practices, the top time evolution of each session:

FP1
1h10 - 1m51.228 Kob
1h08 - 1m48.517 Kob
1h05 - 1m46.960 Kob
1h03 - 1m45.918 Web
1h03 - 1m45.866 Kob
1h00 - 1m44.839 Web
0h58 - 1m44.237 Web
0h56 - 1m43.672 Web
0h52 - 1m42.603 Ham
0h51 - 1m42.538 Alo
0h49 - 1m40.918 Ham
0h44 - 1m40.603 Alo
0h37 - 1m40.175 Ham
0h16 - 1m40.116 Ham
0h11 - 1m39.687 Ham
0h07 - 1m39.670 Ham
0h04 - 1m39.543 Ham
0h02 - 1m38.692 Vet
0h00 - 1m38.125 Vet
FP2
1h23 - 1m40.790 Vet
1h20 - 1m40.744 Ham
1h19 - 1m40.743 Web
1h19 - 1m40.678 But
1h17 - 1m40.431 Alo
1h16 - 1m40.096 Ros
1h14 - 1m39.842 Ros
1h11 - 1m39.485 Web
0h50 - 1m39.277 Web
0h44 - 1m39.106 Mas
0h42 - 1m39.061 Mas
0h36 - 1m38.958 Web
0h33 - 1m38.475 Web
0h20 - 1m37.718 Vet
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Cash wrote:
As Gaara noted, this will be Vettel's 54th helmet change in 100 race weekends.


Stupid really, people like Senna, Mansell, Piquet, Prost pretty much had the same helmet for their whole career, nowadays people seem to change it every time they get in the car
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It's his style... get over it, I for one am always interested to see what helmet design he'll have next

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I just heard from the FP2 re-run on Viasat Motor with the swedish commentators that HRT are gluing their front wings back together. Short on cash and everything.
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You've got to admit, this is pretty badass

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Is that a wrap? Or does he really get a new helmet every race?
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Scotty wrote:
mclaren2008 wrote:
nowadays people seem to change it every time they get in the car


Aside from Vettel, every driver on the grid has kept their original helmet style (or close to it) since the start of their professional careers, and the only other ones I can think of are Kovalainen and Senna (getting paid to do it, don't blame them), and Hamilton and Alonso who just tweak their original design for special events.

And besides, times change. Helmets in the 80's and 90's were boring as fuck anyway. Lets compare

Brendon Hartley 2012

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Alain Prost 1993

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Why looks prettier?

Typo? Is it "who's" or "why does Prost's" you are trying to ask here? :p

I'm a sucker for simplicity. Hartley's helmet is too noisy for my personal taste. I'm not saying Prost's helmet is the most amazing one ever- But given the choice between his and Hartley's, Prost is the winner.
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Drivers say passing won't be easy. Pirelli say conservative tyres will make it a one-stop race. Adjust expectations for Sunday accordingly


Ho-hum, I guess Americans won't be tempted to stick with the race due to Abu-Dhabi style shenanigans when the NASCAR race starts then.

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Jenson changed his helmet twice. Once to Brawn colours and then back but removed the Union Jack. Michael changed his (and ruined it) back in the 00s. Alonsos has changed fairly significantly and Raikkonens isn't even close to the original blue.

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Scotty wrote:
And besides, times change. Helmets in the 80's and 90's were boring as fuck anyway. Lets compare


While some older helmets are more boring, I'm guessing purely due to technical limitations, I do see them as being much more distinctive, especially so when trying to spot certain drivers from TV cameras and whatnot.
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Compared to what he started out with, Alonso's helmet now looks like a mess.

I miss the days when you could draw every F1 driver's helmet from memory. Even the guys like Takagi and Yoong had really distinctive helmets that you could spot a mile away. Now everything seems to be just a mass of polygons.

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