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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:17 pm 
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Article 6.6.2 in full: "Competitors must ensure that a one litre sample of fuel may be taken from the car at any time
during the Event.
Except in cases of force majeure (accepted as such by the stewards of the meeting), if a
sample of fuel is required after a practice session the car concerned must have first been
driven back to the pits under its own power."


The FIA regulations seem to acknowledge the possibility of force majeure, but only for practice sessions?


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Mattzel89 wrote:
waiting for the VETTEL CANT PASS people

You're just as bad as the people who are posting those kind of things.

Vettel sux


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The Vettel defenders are properly having a best-defence-is-offence moment :lol:.

Vettel can pass. Vettel just has a habit of not doing pressurised racing that well, probably because, in fairness, he ain't used to it.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:33 pm 
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Mattzel89 wrote:
waiting for the VETTEL CANT PASS people


He can pass people, but he can't race them. Big difference.

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cambridge wrote:
this F1 is every year getting closer to Wrestling mentality. If you watch back in the 92 or in 2001, championship were closed at half the season. Now it's two or three years that whenever a driver is building a considerable gap than all kind of strange odds happens to him and the gap is gone. I would not be surprised if at some point in the Following years someone would be able to prove that these events were all staged just to make F1 more exciting and always decide the championship in the last couple of races so spectators wont loose interest in it. Something similar to what is happening to Armstrong in Cycling just to make it clear.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Vettel will start from the pit lane.
http://www.f1zone.net/news/red-bull-to- ... car/16536/

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He'll still likely get hit by Maldonado in to T1.

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cambridge wrote:
this F1 is every year getting closer to Wrestling mentality. If you watch back in the 92 or in 2001, championship were closed at half the season. Now it's two or three years that whenever a driver is building a considerable gap than all kind of strange odds happens to him and the gap is gone. I would not be surprised if at some point in the Following years someone would be able to prove that these events were all staged just to make F1 more exciting and always decide the championship in the last couple of races so spectators wont loose interest in it. Something similar to what is happening to Armstrong in Cycling just to make it clear.



You've just watched the latest South Park, right?

But seriously, you might be on to something with this thought. Maybe F1 has gone down to a path where they want to give a great show for one hour rather than really being a pioneer for technology for motored transportation. Sometimes I get a feeling that the pioneering side of the sports has been gone and it's just all about of the smallest details in engineering, like double diffuser or flexi-wing.

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phil1993 wrote:
Vettel will start from the pit lane.
http://www.f1zone.net/news/red-bull-to- ... car/16536/



I read the article and the end was really surprising. He quoted Matti Nykänen! 8O

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“One of the best ski jumpers of all times once said ‘Every chance is an opportunity and as far as we are concerned there are still plenty of chances tomorrow”, Vettel said.



GO SEB! :flag:

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Unless Alonso is on the front row, I won't watch this race.


what if Maldonado is on pole, Vettel is second and Grosjean third?


What if Vettel and Alonso both start from the last row?


50% right :)


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Okay, I guess I'll be watching this race then since the fact the grid has changed the way it has already makes the race more interesting.

Alonso will win because Maldonado will take out everyone around him. :p


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Vettel punishd, He have to begin from the boxes... Who is the 10th?


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That "Vettel can't pass" thing is all because he never won from lower than 3rd. Wasn't it? I think that someone mentioned this this year.

That is very good for the championship, because Ferrari isn't the best car, is it?
So, I am happy. I hope, I am not a fanboy now? ;)


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acopip wrote:
That "Vettel can't pass" thing is all because he never won from lower than 3rd. Wasn't it? I think that someone mentioned this this year.


"anyone who says this boy can;t pass hasn't been paying attention" - Martin Brundle

And this is exactly why you don't declare a championship over with 4 races to go! Shit just got interesting. :D


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ok. I found the complete grid in www.formula1.com
Now Hulkenberg is the 10 th, please look:


1 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:41.497 1:40.901 1:40.630 15
2 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:41.933 1:41.277 1:40.978 17
DSQ 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:42.160 1:41.511 1:41.073 16
4 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:41.981 1:41.907 1:41.226 22
5 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:42.222 1:41.532 1:41.260 20
6 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:42.342 1:41.873 1:41.290 20
7 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:41.939 1:41.514 1:41.582 17
8 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:41.926 1:41.698 1:41.603 17
9 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:41.974 1:41.846 1:41.723 17
10 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:42.046 1:41.620 1:41.778 24
11 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:42.579 1:42.019 16
12 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:42.624 1:42.084 17
13 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:42.572 1:42.218 16
14 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:42.735 1:42.289 14
15 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1:43.298 1:42.330 18
16 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:43.582 1:42.606 17
17 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:43.280 1:42.765 14
18 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:44.058 9
19 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1:44.956 11
20 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1:45.089 10
21 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1:45.151 11
22 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1:45.426 9
23 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1:45.766 8
24 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:46.382


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ellis wrote:
acopip wrote:
That "Vettel can't pass" thing is all because he never won from lower than 3rd. Wasn't it? I think that someone mentioned this this year.


"anyone who says this boy can;t pass hasn't been paying attention" - Martin Brundle

And this is exactly why you don't declare a championship over with 4 races to go! Shit just got interesting. :D

I actually never said that he can't pass, but I think that this might be the reason ;)

Yes, with the second part you are right and hell yeah, I love that you are right! 8)


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acopip wrote:
That "Vettel can't pass" thing is all because he never won from lower than 3rd. Wasn't it? I think that someone mentioned this this year.


Yes. But you know the Renault engine isn't the fast engine on the track, so it was difficult to pass with these engines in the past without DRS.

Bytheway, Even Hamilton never won lower than 2nd row.

But looking at the past, Vettel have still a chance of scoring some points. He has done that before when he was low on the grid.


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I'm looking forward to seeing Vettel come through the field, I can't remember too many occasions when it's happened

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