2012 Formula 1 Airtel Indian Grand Prix

Coldtyre · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:24 pm

I lost interest in this part of the season because it only contains modern tracks, until Brazil. They have a bitter taste compared to the classics.

On a more general perspective, being a bit older than this page's commenters (freaking 27 next week...), I can definitely relate to, and confirm, what you're feeling.
I don't even watch all the races, while there was a time my entire life was built around being home/near a TV for the whole week-end sessions, or heart-brokingly taping them.

I still remember reading a paper about Hamilton being raised by Ron Dennis to be the next F1 superstar. He was 13 then, just a bit older than me, and I was still thinking "I drive karts! I could do that!" :lol:

Hum...well...

Tobias · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:24 pm

I bet you'd be a bit more successful too.

RtN · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:27 pm

Scotty wrote:

I'm starting my racing career next year at 23 next year, dream isn't over. If that Channock Nissany can drive in an F1 sessions so can I.

One year younger than Damon Hill.

You could probably do a better job than Christian Jones, at any rate.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:06 pm

Ferrari trying to cause a diplomatic row
http://www.f1zone.net/news/domenicali-d ... ent/16374/

Karan · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:29 pm

ellis wrote:

Karan wrote:

ellis wrote:

I think the choice of country and scenery are terrible, and of course I hate the run offs. But I do quite like this layout. It's really quite fast, and turns 5 through to 9 take a lot of commitment and bravery.

I drove past the circuit last month and on the contrary the scenery around the circuit is actually quite green and clean for India. And the 8 lane highway (Yamuna Expressway) leading up to the circuit is probably one of the most advanced highways in the country. Again, for Indian standards, the area surrounding the circuit is fantastic.

Yeah, it's green for India, doesn't make it exciting.

Scenery wise, it's like Magny Cours. When you get a shot surrounding it with it, it's just meh.

The choice of country is what is most worrying, because like Turkey, India isn't know for its huge motorsport presence. The only reason Bahrain and co are still on the calendar is there is a massive amount of money there. Will India be willing to stump that up when the prices rise? Turkey didn't. It'd be a shame to lose a nice track (by modern standards).

Well the circuit is atleast an hour outside the city limits so it is in a rural area but I was really surprised how clean and green it was. In any case, they have some pretty big development plans for infrastructure around the circuit (i.e. the Jaypee Sports City) so it should start to look more developed over the years.

Its true that India doesnt have a huge motorsport presence or history. But I can tell you that F1's popularity there has risen massively over the past 5-6 years in the 18-34 demographic. I would say its second behind cricket there now. And with a growing economy, the middle class are doing far better now than they ever did. So personally, I'm quite confident in the future of this race, and I think it'll consistently pull in a decent crowd. And don't forget the massive population. While there's a lot of poverty in India, there's also a ton of people with money to spend.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:35 pm

You could argue that 120 years ago, no country had a motorsport history. Every country must start somewhere. The issue for me is getting it right at grass roots level, which is what they're starting to do in India.

Too many countries buy an F1 race but haven't got the infrastructure to support it or develop any talents. In Britain, and much of western Europe, every circuit will have some sort of racing or event nearly every week. In Korea they shut up shop for practically a whole season.

Антон · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:44 pm

From F1news.ru:

Quote:

What can come true ...

Racers

1,000 th point from Sebastian Vettel, if he did not finish lower than 4th place

900-th point of Lewis Hamilton if he wins the race

400-th point Nico Rosberg, if he did not finish lower than 10th place

100-th point, Roman Grosjean, if he did not finish lower than 4th place

100th point against Sergio Perez, if he wins the race

The 10th victory of Mark Webber

Chassis

50,000 km of leadership development at McLaren, when riders will lead the 34 range

50th hat-trick (pole + + best lap victory) at Ferrari

10th pole position in Mercedes

Engines

500th Grand Prix, but the 497-th start at Renault:
   - Canada '77: Jean-Pierre Jabouille failed to qualify;
   - USA-West '79: Jean-Pierre Jabouille - accident / hand injury, Rene Arnoux - sh.r.u.s.;
   - USA '2005: Fernando Alonso and Giancarlo Fisichella - problems with Michelin tires

150th victory for Renault

150th fastest lap at Renault

100th fastest lap at Mercedes

50th hat-trick (pole + + best lap victory) at Ferrari

Countries

10,000 km of leadership development among the Australians, if they are to lead lap 41

6,000 th point against the British, if they gain 9 points

700th Grand Prix, but the 698-th start the Brazilians

500th start in the 514 Grand Prix for the Australians

200th start from the front row of the French

200th fastest lap of the British

Mika Kimi · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:03 pm

I always like those statistics.

Adding that McLaren can equal Ferrari with scoring points in 55 races consecutively.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:14 pm

Ferrari release statement on flag issue
http://www.ferrari.com/english/formula1 ... ution.aspx

kals · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:17 pm

It is very easy for them to say that, but it's very coincidental that they have decided to display the flag at this particular race weekend isn't it?

phil1993 · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:11 pm

There's also a lot of doubt that Perez was actually ill. Buxton said he looked pissed off, before adding that

"Saw Checo yesterday. For someone with a cold there was a distinct lack of a cough, runny nose, streaming eyes etc. Just looked annoyed."

Also watched The F1 Show and was disappointed to hear Johnny Herbert say that Gutierrez didn't impress. New track for him, dusty surface, F1 car he'd never driven, not driven a car for a month, we don't know the programme for FP1. It's just the sort of criticism a young driver could do without. Granted, he wasn't amazing or anything, but it was fine.

EsbenT · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:26 pm

Special safety car for this weekend's GP:

NVirkkula · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:47 pm

phil1993 wrote:

Ferrari release statement on flag issue
http://www.ferrari.com/english/formula1 ... ution.aspx

The news have been for a week about Ferrari showing their support for those two italian navy officers who shot Indian fishermen and are now arrested in India. Now they're saying it's just there as an honour for the institution itself? That's a huge pile of bullshit trying to dodge the bullets. Quite similar thing by the Ferrari as with the F150-case.

Oh and by the way. Doesn't the FIA regulations say that political acts are not allowed during F1 weekends? We've got Jerez-gate and Turkey-gate as an example of this.

And if they had even the smallest piece honesty with this navy flag-gate, they should have gone with their WW2 flag.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:50 pm

Oh, I agree. It's total bullshit and it's insulting to everyone. But legally and politically they've done this because it hasn't gone down too well with the locals...

kals · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:35 pm

phil1993 wrote:

There's also a lot of doubt that Perez was actually ill. Buxton said he looked pissed off, before adding that

"Saw Checo yesterday. For someone with a cold there was a distinct lack of a cough, runny nose, streaming eyes etc. Just looked annoyed."

*Rules for Phil1993 to observe while on TBK*

1. Don't make predictions
2. Stop reading, reporting and discussing what Will Buxton posts, says, reports, etc...

*Rules will be updated when necessary

phil1993 · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:38 pm

Duly noted Sir.

Fabs · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:55 pm

Vettel will win again

Artur Craft · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:45 pm

LeonArtez wrote:

Just got home, too tired now to do the india thread... so thank you stimaro

phil should have done it, tbh. If I'm not mistaken, he's from London, so he's the one most appropriate in here to open the thread for the Indian GP.

TM93 wrote:

That has to be among the most fucked track layouts I've ever seen. Didn't watch last year, kinda doubting watching this year too.

Your view on it is interesting because most F1 fans love this track. Eventhough I'm not among them in the hardcore love for it, I think from T5 to T12, which is most of the track, is very nice.

De Cesaris fan wrote:

At Suzuka we had some incident filled sessions worth watching. Here we're shown replays if somebody runs a little wide into the run off, because it's about the only thing that actually happens. My comments about the new circuits are probably very repetitive, but I need somewhere to voice my displeasure.

I didn't watch any of Korea, with the exception of some of the race. I can't be bothered to watch the practice sessions today, even though I have the day off work. We're having what's described as one of the best ever seasons of F1, yet my interest seems to be at an all time low. Anyone else feel the same, or am I just getting old and longing to see the F1 that I grew up watching?

Same here. I don't know why, but this season never really grew on me, except for a few races in first 1/3 of the season, which brought me some excitment. This is the closest field F1 ever had, yet I think it all have been a bit meh... Maybe, like lot of other members said, getting older and acquiring some other priorities in life have a big say on it.

stimaro · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:47 pm

Artur Craft wrote:

LeonArtez wrote:

Just got home, too tired now to do the india thread... so thank you stimaro

phil should have done it, tbh. If I'm not mistaken, he's from London, so he's the one most appropriate in here to open the thread for the Indian GP.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:56 pm

Erm. What?

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