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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:29 am 
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Could do worse than seeing Romain at Bristol in a truck.

*hilarity ensues*


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karaokequeen3 wrote:
Could do worse than seeing Romain at Bristol in a truck.

*hilarity ensues*


This like a mo'fo. :flag:

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Ayrton S. wrote:
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Actually, everyone makes errors. I think Grosjean knows what he did and he will learn from it.
He is not a complete race driver yet, but hey, it is his first season.
He will need a proper practice suited for him, but there is no need to have bashing from everyone, which makes him doing even more errors.



Seriously?

Sure, he's fast. But more than 50% of his GP starts results of lap 1 crash. When you reach F1, you're not a nOOb at driving in competition. You started lot of races before in others categories. And no driver in F1 history got a worse rate at start.

And I presume that his ability to avoid questions and avoid saying he's the one to blame will not help being a complete racing driver.

No, I think his history in F1 is really in danger!

I'm totally with you, but it helps no-one if you keep blaming him all the time, he knows that it was his error.
I'm not sure if a 3-race ban will actually help him, I think he is under a great pressure which keeps him making even more errors. Maybe a race ban would be even worse for him
I'm not a specialist, so I don't know what to do, maybe some kind of psychologist will be the right thing.
If he doesn't improve, for sure he won't last in F1 for a long time. :wave:


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If a new ban give him more pressure, and if more pressure will make him doing more error, so conclusion is simple: F1 is not for him.


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I think someone (ellis?) asked why Alonso didn't try and make it back

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:02 am 
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I just read Webber and Horner comments. Totally agree with the problem of the "1st lap crazy guy".


Grosjean reaches the top of the Lulz, with his own comment:"I was fighting with Perez, and didn't saw Webber."
WTF, Webber was totally IN FRONT OF YOU, dude! How can you miss him???


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I was a big Grosjean supporter. I actually think he has an enormous amount of potential. But there comes a point where one has to say we have had 15 races this season and you still haven't sorted yourself out. Sort it out or we will sort it for you. When you make Maldonado and Andrea DeCesaris look sensible you know somethings wrong!!


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Exactly what I think. But sadly, enough is enough.


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I'm also an ex-Grosjean fan. I quite liked him, but he's clearly a lost cause.

If the best excuse he can come up with is he didn't see Webber, then he should be parked for the rest of the season. If the big car directly in front of you is invisible to you, you don't deserve an F1 drive.


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I was hoping Alonso might attempt this.

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Everyone on the podium had at some point driven for Sauber :)

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Even Alesi. :p


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Should be easy for Vettel now unless it rains every race or he has problems every race.

Or that Ferrari finally sort out their wind tunnel, but that won't happen.


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Sandeep Banerjee wrote:
I was hoping Alonso might attempt this.

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I do not think Alonso is able to ride on two wheels by one hand :lol:

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phil1993 wrote:
So Grosjean's victims:
- Schumacher
- Webber
- Perez (x2)
- Kobayashi
- Hamilton
- Alonso
- Maldonado


Add di Resta in Britain. Grosjean had contact with Senna in Britain but as much as I was able to see from that, it looked like more of Bruno´s fault.


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Sandeep Banerjee wrote:
I was hoping Alonso might attempt this.

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I think there are rules against racing in black and white these days

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HSHman wrote:
Sandeep Banerjee wrote:
I was hoping Alonso might attempt this.

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I do not think Alonso is able to ride on two wheels by one hand :lol:



Indeed. He would have to use his other hand for radio-button to ask team to get a penalty for everyone else.

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Just watching the start again and something struck me. I still think it's Grosjean's fault, but look at Webber's line in Turn 2 and how much he dropped off of Kobayashi. I just wonder if there was a small issue there.

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Sure, this start crash is not as evident as Belgium one.
But we can see Grosjean not slowing after having, I think, time to react after Webber slowing, what he didn't do.
So, for me, Grosjean is still guilty.


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