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If Maldonado hadn't taken himself out of what was already a ruined race for him, he could at least have stopped a knock-on effect to Monza.

£10 says Grosjean's race rustiness in Singapore causes a start crash.

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Dan Wheldon | 1978 - 2011

For anyone else this is harsh, however Pastor has had 12 penalties so far this year. They need to be increasingly harsh otherwise he learns nothing.

He was given a harsh penalty for hitting Glock too, because he only hurt himself. However he once again has proven he is a danger and required penalising.

I'm with you here.

This start accident is very similar to the Irvine-Verstappen-Brundle accident at Interlagos 1994.

i.e. it starts merely a driver recklessly going off line as it regularly happens in all impunity, but due to a particular situation and car positioning on track it ends up in a huge crash with cars airborne and drivers very lucky to escape serious head injury.

It's interesting to see that a 1-race ban punishment has been applied to the driver reponsible of each accident, almost 20 years apart.

Lotus not going to appeal the ban (says it all really)

Anything on Kovalainen, Webber and Schumacher?

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Schumi shouldn't get anything as there was nothing dangerous about his pit entry, it was only exacerbated by Seb's (self imposed) slide. Webber's pit exit is a grey area but my opinion is Red Bull didn't do anything overly dangerous. What did Kova do? Is that the pit incident with the HRT?

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yes

Alonso was given a drive through in China 2010 for a jump start. As Pastor didn't make it far enough, a 5 place penalty is sufficient

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Dan Wheldon | 1978 - 2011

It's logically you give a DT-penalty for a false start if you are racing.
But giving a 5 place penalty for a false start is really ridicilous. He hasn't crashed, he hasn't hit an other car. He just was too quick at the start.

Eventhough I also put most of the blame on Pastor there, lot of people putted most of it on Lewis. So, you can't compare both things, really.

Maldonado is clearly hated, picked and targeted by lots of people but he at least is not causing major clusterfucks.

Grosjean is extremely clumpsy and I don't feel sorry at all for him. What he did to the Saubers was disgusting. Those guys have a really tight budget and aren't starting on front row all the time

I'm fine with Romain receiving a ban and Pastor not because the french have been causing much more harm to others to be honest. The only real race which was ruined, where Pastor was 100% guilty, was Perez's Silverstone afair. I think Maldonado does much more harm to himself than to others.

I know it's Maldonado, but I feel that jump starting and pit lane speeding are penalties that shouldn't be carried from one race to another.

But the recent past has shown that if you can't serve your drive trough penltay during the race you will receive a grid place penalty for the next race.

What's wrong with a warning or a money penalty?

Herbert made 2 false starts in 1995, and he crashed out in the first laps. He got a warning and a fine. No problem.
You don't have to give a grid penalty for everything.

We are not in 1995 anymore.

It doesn't matter what people think though. It matters what the stewards think. They deemed Pastor responsible.

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Dan Wheldon | 1978 - 2011

It doesn't really make sense, a jump start gives you advantage in that race only and it's fair to get a drive through for it, but it has nothing to do with the next race (unless you obviouslty impede other people and/or cause mayhem, but neither happened).

Like with most grid penalties, it has that double-punishment feeling, which is why I highly disapprove them.

And more's the pity.

That was a "normal" racing incident, regardless of who was guilty. Grosjean's today wasn't simply that. His unawareness in the starts are quite dangerous tbh. And this wasn't the first or second time we see such thing from him either.....

That said, the way Pastor is going, won't take long for him to receive one as well, as it seems he's not even trying to be more cautions on even the most simple things.

The shirt I'm wearing is a 1995 British Grand Prix shirt. So I sort of am.

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