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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:24 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:15 pm 
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So, the average qualifying positions of this year:

1 Sebastian Vettel 1,26
2 Lewis Hamilton 3,42
3 Mark Webber 3,84
4 Jenson Button 4,53
5 Fernando Alonso 4,63
6 Felipe Massa 5,79
7 Nico Rosberg 7,53
8 Vitaly Petrov 10,26
9 Michael Schumacher 10,37
10 Adrian Sutil 11,63
11 Bruno Senna 11,75
12 Paul di Resta 11,84
13 Nick Heidfeld 13,45
14 Sergio Perez 13,61
15 Sebastien Buemi 13,95
16 Kamui Kobayashi 14,00
17 Pastor Maldonado 14,05
18 Jaime Alguersuari 14,42
19 Rubens Barrichello 14,95
20 Pedro de la Rosa 17,00
21 Heikki Kovalainen 18,47
22 Jarno Trulli 19,56
23 Karun Chandhok 21,00
24 Timo Glock 21,21
25 Jerome d'Ambrosio 22,11
26 Vitantonio Liuzzi 22,61
27 Daniel Ricciardo 22,73
28 Narain Karthikeyan 23,22

And with the point system:
1 Sebastian Vettel 444
2 Mark Webber 284
3 Lewis Hamilton 278
4 Jenson Button 226
5 Fernando Alonso 207
6 Felipe Massa 162
7 Nico Rosberg 121
8 Michael Schumacher 43
9 Vitaly Petrov 42
10 Adrian Sutil 22
11 Paul di Resta 16
12 Jaime Alguersuari 15
13 Nick Heidfeld 14
14 Kamui Kobayashi 13
15 Pastor Maldonado 12
16 Bruno Senna 11
17 Sebastien Buemi 5
18 Sergio Perez 4


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:44 pm 
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I predict a crash from Vettel. Or maybe not since he doesn't have as much pressure on him as he did earlier in the season.


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Great pole by Vettel. Great performance by Bruno Senna, what a drive.

This sunday Nelson Piquet will drive the Brabham BT49 in Interlagos, the car that gave him his first World championship in 1981. Can't wait to see that.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:45 pm 
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Senna has given people a conundrum. He's not been good enough to make you believe he should have a seat nailed on, whilst he's obviously at the same time not a complete waste of seat.


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Well, people celebrated he ended up in front of Petrov and remained in top 10. We'll see....rain is expected for tomorrow and when it rains, everything can happen.

Still on Vettel's pole, honestly I'm sad Mansell's record has been broken. I know it was just a matter of time when you have Vettel driving this car. Interlagos being the last race, there was a little hope he didn't get the pole so, for someone who remembers nostalgically the "Lion" Mansell roaring sovereign with Williams car in the 1992 season, it's particularly frustrating that the record belongs to Vettel now.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:38 pm 
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The thing is that Seb could win 14 poles in the 1992 Williams, as could many other drivers. Patrese would have 10 poles if Nigel were eliminated from that year's results. The 1992 Williams is probably the most technologically advanced F1 car in history (not for it's era, as an absolute).

Could the Nigel of 1992 do the same in this year's Red Bull? Doubtful. That's not a slight on how good Nigel was, because he was quite good indeed, but Sebastien's been making it look easier than it is. I think Webber is probably a better driver too than Patrese was then.

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Possible wet setups for Ferrari and McLaren?


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RtN wrote:
The thing is that Seb could win 14 poles in the 1992 Williams, as could many other drivers. Patrese would have 10 poles if Nigel were eliminated from that year's results. The 1992 Williams is probably the most technologically advanced F1 car in history (not for it's era, as an absolute).

Could the Nigel of 1992 do the same in this year's Red Bull? Doubtful. That's not a slight on how good Nigel was, because he was quite good indeed, but Sebastien's been making it look easier than it is. I think Webber is probably a better driver too than Patrese was then.


Not just that, but you'd have 60 minutes to do it in. Fail once, get a second chance, unless you binned it of course.

This year, you have Q1, Q2 and then you have to nail it in Q3. To do that 15 times is impressive.

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I still think they should do these kind of stats on percentages. Nige got 88% of poles that year, Vettel 'only' got 79% of poles this year.


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Schumifan wrote:
I still think they should do these kind of stats on percentages. Nige got 88% of poles that year, Vettel 'only' got 79% of poles this year.

Yeah that is a more relevant stat, but it doesn't take away how impressive Sebs performance this year has been.


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Ospi wrote:
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I still think they should do these kind of stats on percentages. Nige got 88% of poles that year, Vettel 'only' got 79% of poles this year.

Yeah that is a more relevant stat, but it doesn't take away how impressive Sebs performance this year has been.


You can't take anything away from Seb, arguably F1 is the most competitive it's ever been. To win 15/19 poles is very impressive, but, he lost out on 3 occasions, while "our" :lol: Nige lost out twice. When considering it from that prospective I don't see how it's fair to compare these two when Seb has had another 3 races to pass Nigel's pole tally in a season. If he had got 15 poles by the 15th race, then it would be an entirely different story.


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could someone tell me who is that woman director of Sauber?

Oh yes, they said 90% chance of rain today... and it's bright and sunny now in Interlagos :P


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If the race is dry all the way then it'll be Vettel by probably 30+ seconds


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Tobias wrote:
could someone tell me who is that woman director of Sauber?

Oh yes, they said 90% chance of rain today... and it's bright and sunny now in Interlagos :P


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100% rain :)

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HSHman wrote:
Tobias wrote:
could someone tell me who is that woman director of Sauber?

Oh yes, they said 90% chance of rain today... and it's bright and sunny now in Interlagos :P


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100% rain :)


I like that picture very much.

Now if they'd stop being pussies and actually have a wet start...


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