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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:56 pm 
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standard Macau


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
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kals wrote:
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WTF was that in race 2?


It was standard WTCC.


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standard Macau


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:44 pm 
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pimmy wrote:
1. Yvan Muller - 431 pts
5. Tom Chilton - 213 pts

:lol:

Expanding on this:
2002
13. Aaron Slight - 32 pts
15. Chilton - 14 pts

2003
3. Matt Neal - 148 pts
5. Alan Morrison - 125 pts
9. Chilton - 70 pts

2004
5. Neal - 181 pts (customer team)
8. Dan Eaves - 148 pts (customer team)
9. Chilton - 116 pts (works team)

2005
5. Chilton - 175 pts (a bit of an outlier this one, no team mate to compare to and he actually finished ahead of Turkington & Collard despite missing 2 events)

2006
5. Fabrizio Giovanardi - 163 pts
7. Chilton - 139 pts
8. Gavin Smith - 123 pts (also a rich-daddy driver like Chilton)
26. Erkut Kizilirmak - 0 pts (only 2 events)

2007
1. Giovanardi - 300 pts
9. Chilton -130 pts
15. Alain Menu - 13pts (only 1 event)

2008
7. Gordon Shedden - 144 pts
10. Chilton - 107 pts

2009
13. Chilton - 55 pts
21. Tom Onslow-Cole - 4 pts (only 4 events)
24. Morrison - 2 pts (first 4 events only equalled Chilton's score until that point)

2010
4. Onslow-Cole - 200 pts
5. Chilton - 191 pts

2011
7. Chilton - 135 pts
13. Onslow-Cole - 61 pts (only 6 events as team-mates, only scored 30 points less in that period)
18. Andy Neate - 15 pts (no achievement here, a brain-dead chimp could beat him)

2012
20. James Nash - 12 pts
22. Chilton - 7 pts

2013
1. Muller - 431 pts (de-facto works team)
3. Nash - 226 pts (customer team)
5. Chilton - 213 pts (de-facto works team)

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:53 pm 
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Tom Chilton in 2011 about his time in BTCC wrote:
10 wins in 10 years, not too bad


After leaving for WTCC at the end of 2011 Tom had amassed 12 wins in what I calculate as 271 starts... That's one win per 22.5 starts. What an awesome strike rate for someone who's had works equipment at...

Honda (2003 & 2004)
Vauxhall (2006 & 2007)
Ford (2009, 2010 & 2011)

That's works equipment during 70% of his BTCC career. During this same period of his works drives his team mates scored 26 victories to his 7.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:25 am 
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Just got round to watching the Macau races. That this trash is considered a "World" Championship is utterly laughable. And to allow a bunch of local drivers who don't even appear to have the talent that would allow them to get a National B Club licence in the UK to tool around at this "level" is even worse. Half the field should be banned from the start of next season for that display of lunacy.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
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For the ones who missed this
Wtf was the orange car thinking there to race that line at the start.
Crash fest starts at 15:08 oh boy :lol:
[youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdD5aIufl-Y[/youtubeidiot]


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:02 pm 
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Some of the most comical driving I think I've ever seen.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
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Speaking of people causing chaos, Pepe Oriola has said the only way he will be on the grid next year is with a works Citreon.

http://www.touringcartimes.com/2013/11/19/pepe-oriolas-2014-fate-rests-with-citroen/


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
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I'll take Oriola over most of the WTCC drivers.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
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Sergio wrote:
For the ones who missed this
Wtf was the orange car thinking there to race that line at the start.
Crash fest starts at 15:08 oh boy :lol:
[youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdD5aIufl-Y[/youtubeidiot]


Orange car (Michaeliz?) broke his steering after contact with Chilton coming into the first corner. Cameras missed it but you can see the cars moving towards each other as the camera pans away.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:40 pm 
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I think it would help if these WTCC races would last for lets say 45 minutes or so. Then drivers would have more time. Now they have to 'kamikaze' because they only have a few laps to race.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
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There's always been local drivers in the Macau touring car race, it wouldn't be the same without them. Then again, they've already changed the race format.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
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Gaara wrote:
There's always been local drivers in the Macau touring car race, it wouldn't be the same without them. Then again, they've already changed the race format.

there is still the macau touring car cup, no need for them in the wtcc races

http://www.touringcartimes.com/2013/11/ ... -in-macau/
http://www.touringcartimes.com/2013/11/ ... macau-cup/


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:11 pm 
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Tom Chilton will race a new Cruze in for 2014


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
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*ahem*

kart99 wrote:
Tom Chilton will crash a new Cruze in for 2014


kart99 wrote:
Tom Chilton will race a new Cruze badly in for 2014

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
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RML have confirmed that they will not run next year in the WTCC and will build 4 cars, down from 6 - although 6 cars is still a possibility.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
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photoshop of how the new cruze could look like

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
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Hate the wide arches


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
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So with the improved aero, will that mean these already underpowered and over-downforced cars, will have even less power and yet more downforce?

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 WTCC Discussion
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they will have around 380 hp


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