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were you born before or after SPA 1991? (MSC F1 Debut)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:45 pm 
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pdukers wrote:
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if every earning driver could miss a million of his salary, Spa would be easily maintained in the calendar. It would then be property of the 'F1 collective'.


And if every F1 fan behind the TV would donate ONE dollar, Spa would be easily maintained in the calendar ;)


A crowdfunding for Spa would be a great idea indeed. I don't think it's impossible, tbh.


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EAS wrote:
pdukers wrote:
Tobias wrote:
if every earning driver could miss a million of his salary, Spa would be easily maintained in the calendar. It would then be property of the 'F1 collective'.


And if every F1 fan behind the TV would donate ONE dollar, Spa would be easily maintained in the calendar ;)


A crowdfunding for Spa would be a great idea indeed. I don't think it's impossible, tbh.


Why not? Someone with a us non-profit company should start a project on kickstarter with a defined objective to give all the money to the Belgian race organizers. Then arrange an article on autosport.com and boom, that should be cool.

Not impossible, possible!

The only sad thing is, on a side note, that kickstarter is almost entirely us-centered.


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Its just baffling when places like Spa, Canada and Silverstone which absolutely cram the fans in wall to wall can't make money yet some desert place with 3 fans gets a race because some rich guy's latest whim is having an F1 track in his back garden.

F1 will always go where the money is but even the Sheikhs and the Governments will get tired of pumping money down a hole eventually.


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bigears wrote:
I am pleased the French GP is back at Paul Ricard. But it is a shame that it had to share with Spa, out of all of the other tracks.

Makes me feel I ought to dig out my GP3 game and drive the full track!


full track of Paul Ricard or Spa ? :p

I wonder which lay-out they will use? If it's the one used until 1985 ... tast 8)


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Doubt it would be the pre 1985 track. I would say the post 1986 circuit whose the first corner was made famous because of Mauricio Gugelmin's massive crash at the 1989 French GP.


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bigears wrote:
Doubt it would be the pre 1985 track. I would say the post 1986 circuit whose the first corner was made famous because of Mauricio Gugelmin's massive crash at the 1989 French GP.


I'm sure I read somewhere that it will be the long version but it was yet to be decided whether the mistral straight will have a chicane or not (hopefully not).


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Ads274 wrote:
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Doubt it would be the pre 1985 track. I would say the post 1986 circuit whose the first corner was made famous because of Mauricio Gugelmin's massive crash at the 1989 French GP.


I'm sure I read somewhere that it will be the long version but it was yet to be decided whether the mistral straight will have a chicane or not (hopefully not).


F1 cars are rev limited to hell now, does it really matter if there's a chicane or not? :(

Even if its not chicaned they'll probably get lazy and put the DRS zone there and everyone will bitch about it anyway, can't win really.


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they could have about 4 DRS zones at Ricard...


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Ads274 wrote:
bigears wrote:
Doubt it would be the pre 1985 track. I would say the post 1986 circuit whose the first corner was made famous because of Mauricio Gugelmin's massive crash at the 1989 French GP.


I'm sure I read somewhere that it will be the long version but it was yet to be decided whether the mistral straight will have a chicane or not (hopefully not).


Don't really see why, they have tossing massive straights at China, Abu Dhabi, all the other Tilke tracks ... and this layout (taxed from Wikipedia) can't feature a straight any longer than those ...
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well, whatever the lay-out, I really want to attend this GP in 2013. Can combine it with a nice holiday by the beach.


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I'll take some reserve for the French GP "return". The only men can make it possible is Hollande (because it will elected, Sarkozy is already ejected as fuck.)

Private money or not, remember that France became autophobic, even with three drivers on F1 gird and Two World Champions in WRC and WTCC, and recent Le Mans winners. And hollande said in 2007 that "formula one circuits is not ecologic."

The most dramatic situation will be no French GP AND no Belgium Grand Prix. If those retards (french and belgian goverments, FIA, FOM, Sponsors, whatever) make this like they've almost killed British and Italian GP and even Monaco, well, i fuck Formula On and sop to watch it anymore.

It's World Championship, but it's actually turn into a "Asian and Middle east championship with European one-off races."

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F1 last tested in Paul Ricard in 2007 if my memory serves me right. I seem to recall they used various lay-outs of the track over the few days they tested.


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Mattzel89 wrote:
Spa is one of the few F1 tracks left where you can walk around, have amazing viewing spots even with bronze tickets only and get really close to the cars at some turns, so this really sucks.
Hell is going to freeze over before I pay to watch F1 in Hockenheim or the Nürburgring.

Maybe if more Germans went to the Belgian GP, then it could be safe. Unfortunately, very few people in Germany is passionate about F1, as we are, up to a point of going to see it in a foreign place simply because of it's magic, tradition, layout.......... :(

PS: Paul Ricard sucks!


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"wtf" indeed.


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Seriously considering deleting this entire thread. I need eye bleach.


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