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were you born before or after SPA 1991? (MSC F1 Debut)
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Slight livery tweak for Sauber?

“That is a secret of course,” Sauber smiled to the Sonntagsblick newspaper. “All I can say is that the basic colour is white, but the overall impression is dark, with red.

“In short, it is different (compared to 2011). I remain a friend of the colour white, although often on television some cars cannot be well distinguished.”

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There is a, let's say, technical drawing of the Caterham over at scrabsf1 and well the nose actually does not look THAT bad. Of course it is unusual and has nothing to do with elegance. But since the actual nosecone is rather thin it makes the car looking more radical rather than ugly.


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Don't go to Zandvoort please. First of all it well get butchered as everyone said, and second of all, I think it's one of the track that produces the most boring races ever. I can't remember one good race there (Single seaters or Touring cars).


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Me neither. And I might be in the minority here but in my view the track is way too overrated.


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Dudes, just watch the 2006 A1 GP race. Any A1 GP race on Zandvoort for that matter..


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Zaandvort is a lot of fun to drive, which is why I imagine it gets rated so highly.

Not seen so many good races either, but that's mainly cos of the series that race there.

As said, A1GP was great, DTM is rubbish everywhere so the truth is somewhere in between really...


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It also has atmosphere which is important for a track.

And yeaa, it is fun to drive.


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Not saying it's not a unique, twisty, challenging track. (I love driving it on rFactor for example)
A1GP has produced good races everywhere, they probably would've done a 10/10 in Valencia.
But also other open wheel categories (F3,lower Open WHeel) have mostly produced tame races there. It's just because it's so incredibly hard to pass on.


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Zandvoort is terrible. Too much sand, not enough seats!!

Hated the place!

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Zaandvort is a lot of fun to drive, which is why I imagine it gets rated so highly.

Not seen so many good races either, but that's mainly cos of the series that race there.

As said, A1GP was great, DTM is rubbish everywhere so the truth is somewhere in between really...

Old Shitty DTM was great there.


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Speedworx wrote:
Zandvoort is terrible. Too much sand, not enough seats!!

Hated the place!


lol


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Plugging my own video. :p


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Its probably the case that it was a great track for racing until the 80s or so then after that the cars just outgrew the track.

Though I'd rather they fixed the cars of whatever races there than butcher the track to suit modern machinery tbh.

Ahhh, for the days when you could cut to a car half out of the track and everyone would just shrug their shoulders and say "ahh well, bad luck mate" instead of today's immediate SC panic reaction :p


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I don't know if this project for a new circuit in Portugal wants to host F1, but if it does... Kill it with fire.


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I don't know if this project for a new circuit in Portugal wants to host F1, but if it does... Kill it with fire.


My eyes :(


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Looks like something drawn in paint

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amq55 wrote:
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I don't know if this project for a new circuit in Portugal wants to host F1, but if it does... Kill it with fire.

What's wrong with Portimao? That's a fine modern track, I don't see why Portugal would need to build a new one.


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I'm not even thinking anymore that the Tilke-Tracks are so bad, I think it's just because of the cars which can't provide good racing and nice, smooth overtaking.
The championship became less interesting because everyone finishes every race.
They forbid every new thing the designers introduce.

The teams should be given the opportunity to build their engines as they want with little restrictions.
The designers would go to their limits which would cause many different cars, maybe interesting races, different engine sounds and many retirements.


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amq55 wrote:
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I don't know if this project for a new circuit in Portugal wants to host F1, but if it does... Kill it with fire.

What's wrong with Portimao? That's a fine modern track, I don't see why Portugal would need to build a new one.


It's a Grade 1T. Not sure what it'd need to become Grade 1.


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fancy buildings and miles of runoffs.


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