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I'm one of those people that likes all interesting design styles. Even if they are hard to like aesthetically, I am glad we get the uglies and the beauties. It provides a nice contrast.

Personally I get tired of boring aero-designs. I enjoy seeing things that are strikingly different.


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It's a very nice car apart from the nose aesthetically though, loving the back end of the thing and the livery looks great.


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ixnay wrote:
I'm one of those people that likes all interesting design styles. Even if they are hard to like aesthetically, I am glad we get the uglies and the beauties. It provides a nice contrast.

Personally I get tired of boring aero-designs. I enjoy seeing things that are strikingly different.


Me too. I loved cars like the Williams FW26, the Arrows A23, cars that stood out. But this is IMO just ugly.


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They should get rid of the engine-freezing to have engines which stand out at high-speed tracks and others who are better on low-speed tracks.
They should be given more room in the nose and wing design so that we can have different-looking-cars.
I loved the cars from 2004-2008, there were still some revolutions on the cars especially the '04 McLaren while Ferrari rather stayed conserative.


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When is caterham going to release a decent picture of their car?


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EauRougeF1 wrote:
When is caterham going to release a decent picture of their car?

Friday 16 March?


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It's a very nice car apart from the nose aesthetically though, loving the back end of the thing and the livery looks great.


Agreed. Apart from the nose, it's pretty. And the nose is dictated by the new rules.

What are these new rules trying to achieve, btw?


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Whichever car wins the title will be seen as a beautiful car. The ones that bring up the rear will be seen as ugly.

It's how it always is.

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Worst presentation ever.


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phil1993 wrote:
Whichever car wins the title will be seen as a beautiful car. The ones that bring up the rear will be seen as ugly.

It's how it always is.


I always found the Minardi cars really pretty.


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ellis wrote:
Ospi wrote:
It's a very nice car apart from the nose aesthetically though, loving the back end of the thing and the livery looks great.


Agreed. Apart from the nose, it's pretty. And the nose is dictated by the new rules.

What are these new rules trying to achieve, btw?


fewer cars getting launched into the air during contact


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Really? I can't imagine that's the case. I thought it was to do with reducing front aero and grip.


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I'm fairly certain it was an attempt to eliminate the high front wings and reduce the likelihood of getting air.

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Because F1 cars get air in every race.


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Height of the front nose has been lowered mainly for safety reasons:
http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/10/2 ... gulations/

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The move towards lower noses has been one of the safety aims of the Technical Working Group (TWG). It’s long been feared a car striking another with a high nose will likely make any accident worse. Both in the case of nose to wheel contact or a nose T-boning another car. So a lower nose will help prevent cars flipping or being penetrated in these instances.

A secondary benefit could also be improved visibility for the driver, as the front of the chassis and nose will be lower, obstructing the view far less than the very high humped noses of late.

A supplementary benefit is that the already limited space to aerodynamic devices under the raised chassis will be further eliminated. This area still housing turning vanes and flow conditioners, even after the drastic 2009 aero rules changes.


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I thought it was to bring the height of the nose under the height of the cockpit sides (in the T-Bone situations mentioned above) ...


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So the tip of the nose is still almost as high as before, but the rest of it is lowered. How's that improving safety? Why didn't they make the rule much more clear about the height? I hope they do that for 2013, because now every car will probably end up looking stupid.

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Gabriel wrote:
Because F1 cars get air in every race.

By that logic, they shouldn't bother making the helmets safer, because they don't get stuff in their heads every race.

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BrainPain wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
Because F1 cars get air in every race.

By that logic, they shouldn't bother making the helmets safer, because they don't get stuff in their heads every race.



And all aero parts must be connected much better so a car won't loose an aero-part and loose downforce in a fast corner.


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ixnay wrote:
I'm one of those people that likes all interesting design styles. Even if they are hard to like aesthetically, I am glad we get the uglies and the beauties. It provides a nice contrast.

Personally I get tired of boring aero-designs. I enjoy seeing things that are strikingly different.


unless all the F1 teams will come up with this 'sollution'. Then it is far less enteresting.


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