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New rule; if one driver says it's okay to race, they race.

If the other 23 don't like it, they can ask Prost what to do.

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Dan Wheldon ¦ 1978-2011
Marco Simoncelli ¦ 1987-2011
Jules Bianchi ¦ 1989-2015
Justin Wilson ¦ 1978-2015

Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

Well I think we all agree that those red flag conditions we got to were not OK. It would have been suicidal to run them there. But then under that idea, it'd only take 1 jackass to say "nah it's fine" and then suddenly we have to race. And if the other 23 parked because it was rightly ridiculous, then the shit storm that'd happen from the people who think that this rule is a good idea would be insane.

A better rule is if the safety car is deployed because of heavy rain, you red flag the race immediately. They wasted 5 laps before they red flagged it when it was obvious there would be no restart for a while.

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Dan Wheldon | 1978 - 2011

I don't believe that a single driver was in favour of racing under the conditions that there were during and after the cloudburst.

The race director could have authority to call force majeure if circumstances are as extreme as that.

Another new rule; the Safety Car shall be on track at any one time for 5 laps maximum. After 5 laps, the race should either be restarted or red flagged.

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Dan Wheldon ¦ 1978-2011
Marco Simoncelli ¦ 1987-2011
Jules Bianchi ¦ 1989-2015
Justin Wilson ¦ 1978-2015

Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

After getting some sleep and reading a bit through the Thread again I have to say Rain, Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve and TBK is a good Mixture to have Fun.

Anyone?

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it's been a great race but to be honest i cant believe button has got away with it. I mean, Alonso has been penalized a few races back after having ruined his wing and his race for "unecessary contact" or something like that. Button yesterday took out Hamilton on the straight, took out Alonso in a chicane, both cases was obviously his fault, and no penalties, nothing. FIA's decisions have always been a mistery to me.

Canoey Kobayashi is still so full of win.

And yes, max. 5 laps safety car. Because even if you red flag the race, they 'only' need a 10 minute warning rather than waste racing laps. Yesterday, there were too many laps after the red flag period too. I'd say we lost about 10 laps of racing.

Also, the marshals were disappointing. Seemed to take ages to clear Lewis' car whilst we nearly saw one of them killed when he fell over - twice.

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cambridge - read the stewards report, then you'll understand

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Dan Wheldon | 1978 - 2011

Lewis parked it very near to the place where there was a pocket where car can easily be pushed, but they somehow needed truck to move it. At Monaco sometimes I have seen track marshals with similar jacks as they have in the pit lane, so they can move cars quite easily even if it has lost wheel(s). Those would be needed for other circuits as well.

where can i find it?

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Dan Wheldon | 1978 - 2011

Amazing race. Well worth that agonising two hour wait lol

You can't really push a car with collapsed rear suspension. And if Lewis was going to park the car, there was a run off (which Heidfeld went down) which he should have used.

Lewis believed he only had a puncture. The team told him the suspension was broken - it was actually just the wishbone - and told him to stop, which he did within 6 seconds. I believe he was beyond the Turn 4 run-off by the time he was informed to stop the car

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Dan Wheldon | 1978 - 2011

ill tell you what: to me they should be all "racing accident" and i have no problem with it, but using the FIA point of view, if you look at the alonso/button crash from the rear wing of the car infront you can clearly see button way beyond alonso, going on the wet to brake, missing the braking point and then hitting alonso on his rear wheel with his front wheel. Using FIA criteria i've never seen a car being hit in his rear wheel being blamed for a crash cause, as they say, car in front have the line.
I'm totally ok with the decision from my point of view but at FIA they keep changing their mind race after race, as far as i can remember.

sportal.de reports that Karthikeyan has been given a 20 seconds penalty for cutting the chicane but I haven't found confirmation on any other site so far.
Source (in German)

Edit: On Formula1.com the race result has been updated, Karthikeyan falls back to P17.
http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2011/857/

correct, dropped to P17. have you checked this tiny site: http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2011/857/

Here's some of the stuff we didn't see in the race - Kobayashi wide, Rosberg's wing flying off and what happened to Pastor

[youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qUkjg48YAU[/youtubeidiot]

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Dan Wheldon | 1978 - 2011

Those incidents were pretty spectacular, shame that FOM did not show them.

how did they manage to miss the Rosberg incident?

Too focused on the fight for the lead.