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Who will win the 2011 Championship?
Poll ended at Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:52 am
#1 James Courtney (HRT) 17%  17%  [ 5 ]
#2 Garth Tander (HRT) 10%  10%  [ 3 ]
#3 Tony D'Alberto (TDR) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#4 Alex Davison (SBR) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#5 Mark Winterbottom (FPR) 10%  10%  [ 3 ]
#6 Will Davison (FPR) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#7 Todd Kelly (JDR) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#8 Jason Bargwanna (BJR) 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
#9 Shane Van Gisbergen (FPR) 14%  14%  [ 4 ]
#11 Greg Murphy (KRT) 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
#12 Dean Fiore (FFF) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#14 Jason Bright (BJR) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#15 Rick Kelly (JDR) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#16 David Reynolds (KRT) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#17 Steven Johnson (DJR) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#18 James Moffat (DJR) 10%  10%  [ 3 ]
#19 Jonathon Webb (JWR) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#21 Karl Reindler (BRI) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#61 Fabian Coulthard (WAL) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#30 Warren Luff (LDM) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#33 Lee Holdsworth (GRM) 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
#34 Michael Caruso (GRM) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#39 Russell Ingall (PMM) 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
#47 Tim Slade (SBR) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#49 Steve Owen (PMM) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#55 Paul Dumbrell (RNR) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
#88 Jamie Whincup (888) 21%  21%  [ 6 ]
#888 Craig Lowndes (888) 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Total votes: 29
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May as well get this thread under way, with Speedcafe publishing the likely entry lists, tyre allocations for next year. Not too much that needs to be settled with only 2 vacant seats currently with BJR seeking a replacement for Jason Richards whilst he undergoes chemotherapy and DJR having to replace championship winner James Courtney who is making the move to HRT (TBC).

Other expected but yet to be confirmed moves are David Reynolds to the final Kelly Racing seat, Will Davison to FPR, and Steve Owen to replace Greg Murphy at PMM.

Steven Richards is being linked to the 2nd DJR seat (please god no), with drivers linked to both seats including David Besnard, James Moffat, David Russell and Andrew Thompson.

In sponsor changes, eNews is running with Wilson Security backing Jason Bright, Bisley for David Reynolds, Mother to continue with Jono Webb, Lucky7 to step up with Tim Slade, and VIP Petfoods to return to the sport with Steve Owen. This leaves no spot for Pepsi whose plans may have been put on the backburner with the James Courtney/FPR deal falling through.

UPDATE – James Moffat took the final DJR seat. Jason Bargwanna replaces Jason Richards at BOC. Greg Murphy jumps into Bargwanna’s seat and takes the Pepsi cash. David Reynolds keeps the Stratco sponsorship rather than bringing Bisley onboard.

2011 Calendar
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                                                                                         RACES DISTANCE      TYRE ALLOCATIONS
V8 SUPERCAR CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES                                                          FRI  SAT  SUN       PRE-MARKED CONTROL SOFT WET
1.  February 10-12   Yas V8 400, Yas Marina Circuit, Abu Dhabi                          200  200                0          -    32   12
2.  March 17-20      Clipsal 500, Adelaide Street Circuit, SA                        T10     250   250          0         24     -    -
NC. March 24-27      AGP, Albert Park, VIC                                                                      4          8    12    8
3.  April 15-17      ITM Hamilton 400, Hamilton Street Circuit, NZ                   T10     200   200          0          -    32   12
4.  April 29-May 01    Barbagallo Raceway, Perth, WA                                           120 2x120          4         12    24   12
5.  May 20-22        Winton Motor Raceway, VIC                                               120   200          4          -    28   12
6.  June 17-19       SKYCITY Triple Crown, Hidden Valley Raceway, NT                         120   200          4         20     4   12
7.  July 08-10       Sucrogen Townsville 400, Townsville Street Circuit, QLD         T10     200   200          4         24     8   12
8.  August 19-21     Queensland Raceway, QLD                                                 120   200          4          -    28   12
9.  September 16-18  L&H 500, Phillip Island GP Circuit, VIC                                2x50   500          8         28     -    -
10. October 06-09    Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000, Mount Panorama, NSW              T10          1000          8         28     -    -
11. October 21-23    Armor All Gold Coast 600, Surfers Paradise Street Circuit, QLD  T10     300   300          8          -    40    -
12. November 11-13   Falken Tasmania Challenge, Symmons Plains, TAS                          120   200          4          -    28   12
13. November 18-20   Norton 360 Sandown Challenge, Sandown Raceway, VIC                      120   200          4          -    28   12
14. December 02-04   Sydney Telstra 500, Sydney Olympic Park, NSW                    T10     250   250          4         24     -   12

FUJITSU SERIES
1.  March 17-20      Adelaide Street Circuit, SA
2.  May 06-08        Barbagallo, Perth, WA
3.  July 08-10       Townsville Street Circuit, QLD
4.  August 19-21     Queensland Raceway, QLD
5.  October 06-09    Mount Panorama, NSW
6.  November 18-20   Sandown Raceway, VIC
7.  December 02-04   Sydney Olympic Park, NSW


ROUND BY ROUND – ON TRACK ACTION
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                      THU              FRI                SAT                          SUN
1.  Abu Dhabi         P 4x30m          Q 20m, R1 200km    Q 20m; R2 200km
2.  Clipsal 500                        P 4x30m            Q 20m, T10; R3 250km         Q 20m; R4 250km
NC. AGP               P 2x30m          Q 30m, R 150km     R 100km                      R 150km
3.  Hamilton                           P 4x30m            Q 20m, T10; R5 200km         Q 20m; R6 200km
4.  Barbagallo                         P 4x30m            Q 20m; R7 120km              R8 120km, R9 120km
5.  Winton                             P 4x30m            Q 20m; R10 120km             Q 20m; R11 120km
6.  Hidden Valley                      P 4x30m            Q 20m; R12 120km             Q 20m; R13 120km
7.  Townsville                         P 4x30m            Q 20m, T10; R14 200km        Q 20m; R15 200km
8.  Ipswich                            P 4x30m            Q 20m; R16 120km             Q 20m; R17 200km
9.  Phillip Island                     P 3x40m            P 2x40m; Q 2x20m; R 2x60km   WU 20m; R18 500km
10. Bathurst 1000     P 2x50m, 1x45m   P 50m, 45m; Q 40m  P 50m; Q T10                 WU 20m; R19 1000km
11. Gold Coast 600                     P 4x40m            Q 30m, T10; R20 300km        Q 30m; R21 300km
12. Symmons Plains                     P 4x30m            Q 20m; R22 120km             Q 20m; R23 200km
13. Sandown                            P 4x30m            Q 20m; R24 120km             Q 20m; R25 200km
14. Sydney                             P 4x30m            Q 20m, T10; R26 250km        Q 20m; R27 250km

#For rounds with 4x30m practice sessions: P1&2 are for Bottom 50% + rookies. At events 5-8 an additional driver can compete in P1&2.
#Qualifying (Sprint) – Any driver that causes a red flag can’t take further part in qualifying and will have their fastest lap excluded.
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2011 LineUp
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No.  Team                     Sponsor Name              REC  Chassis  Engine  Driver
1    Holden Racing Team       Toll Holden Racing Team   WP   WP       WP      James Courtney
2    Holden Racing Team       Toll Holden Racing Team   WP   WP       WP      Garth Tander
3    Tony D’Alberto Racing    Centaur Racing            TDR  WP       WP      Tony D’Alberto
## D’Alberto will compete in his 2010 car at Abu Dhabi, before switching to a Wilson Security backed Ford in Adelaide##
7    Kelly Racing             Jack Daniel’s Racing      KR   KR       KR      Todd Kelly
8    Brad Jones Racing        Team BOC                  BJR  WP       Noonan  Jason Bargwanna
**#10 licence sold back to V8SC**                                             #
14   Brad Jones Racing                                  BJR  WP       Noonan  Jason Bright
15   Kelly Racing             Jack Daniels Racing       KR   KR       KR      Rick Kelly
16   Kelly Racing             Stratco Racing            PE   KR       KR      David Reynolds
21   BJR/Britek Motorsport    Fair Dinkum Sheds Racing  BRI  WP       Noonan  Karl Reindler
30   Lucas Dumbrell Racing    Gulf Western Oil Racing   LDR  WP       WP      Warren Luff
33   Garry Rogers Motorsport  Fujitsu Racing            GRM  GRM      WP      Lee Holdsworth
34   Garry Rogers Motorsport  Fujitsu Racing            GRM  GRM      WP      Michael Caruso
39   Paul Morris Motorsport   Supercheap Auto Racing    PMM  888      KRE     Russell Ingall
49   Paul Morris Motorsport   VIP Petfoods              PMM  PMM/888  KRE     Steve Owen
51   Kelly Racing             Pepsi Racing              PE   KR       KR      Greg Murphy
61   Walkinshaw Racing        Bundaberg Red Racing      WP   WP       WP      Fabian Coulthard
88   888 Motorsport           Team Vodafone             888  888      KRE     Jamie Whincup
888  888 Motorsport           Team Vodafone             888  888      KRE     Craig Lowndes

IN: Courtney, Reynolds, Luff, Owen
OUT: W. Davison, J. Richards, Thompson, Ricciardello

FORD (10)
No.  Team                     Sponsor Name              REC  Chassis  Engine  Driver
4    Stone Brothers Racing    IRWIN Racing              SBR  SBR      SBR     Alex Davison
5    Ford Performance Racing  Orrcon Steel FPR Racing   FPR  FPR      FPR     Mark Winterbottom
6    Ford Performance Racing  Trading Post FPR Racing   FPR  FPR      FPR     Will Davison#
9    Stone Brothers Racing    SP Tools Racing           SBR  SBR      SBR     Shane Van Gisbergen
12   Triple F Racing                                    FFF  888      KRE     Dean Fiore
17   Dick Johnson Racing      Jim Beam Racing           DJR  888      DJR     Steven Johnson
18   Dick Johnson Racing      Jim Beam Racing           DJR  888      DJR     James Moffat
19   Tekno Autosport          Mother Energy Racing Team WEB  888      DJR     Jonathon Webb
47   Stone Brothers Racing    Lucky 7 Racing            ROS  SBR      SBR     Tim Slade
55   Rod Nash Racing          The Bottle-O Racing Team  RNR  FPR      FPR     Paul Dumbrell

IN: W. Davison, Moffat
OUT: S. Richards, Courtney


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Lee Holdsworth will become a proper title contender.
Shane van Gisbergen will win a few races.
James Courtney will be proven a fluke.


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James Courtney will be proven a fluke.


e) wrong

He won the title this year with a car lacking upgrades, driving for a team who was in the process of going broke and tearing each other apart from the inside. It was no fluke.


Courtney's title was certainly no fluke, however he's going to a team that finished 5th and 21st in the driver's standings and 7th in the teams. Having said that, I'd be extremely surprised if HRT has a similar year to this year in 2011.


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I would expect HRT to bounce back. I think he is in with a good shot.

That being said, Whincup will be right there for sure.


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HRT's golden era is gone. I don't see them bouncing back. Triple 8 have better prepared Holdens.

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I reckon Will's a confidence sensitive driver, because that's the only reason I can think of why he went from championship contender one year to backmarker the next. Ever since that god-awful Middle East trip when all 4 Walkinshaw cars were nowhere, he was nowhere to be seen, and when he did run up the front, silly things bit him in the arse and stopped him getting decent finishes (big wreck at Bathurst, engine blowup in Tassie and another big wreck at Sandown). Abu Dhabi and Adelaide next year I reckon will tell a lot about his 2011 season: finish well and I reckon he'll be a chance for the title; couple of shockers and there could be a chance that he has a repeat of his god-awful 2010 season, which I hope doesn't happen.


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Shame to see JC off to Holden, the old Red vs Blue days are long gone, Lowdnes high profile move to Ford in 2001 pretty much opened the flood-gates. There are very few one-marque drivers out there anymore.


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Shame to see JC off to Holden, the old Red vs Blue days are long gone, Lowdnes high profile move to Ford in 2001 pretty much opened the flood-gates. There are very few one-marque drivers out there anymore.

Have there ever been any major one marque drivers over the years? Johnson started off in a Holden, Brock drove Ford's and BMW's, and Moffat ran Mazda's and Holden's.


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The whole Ford vs Holden stuff is a joke anyway

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Greg Murphy's one guy you'll never see go to Ford.


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Juihi wrote:
The whole Ford vs Holden stuff is a joke anyway


Yet the rivalry has been the backbone of Australian touring car racing since the 1968 Hardie Ferodo 500

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Greg Murphy's one guy you'll never see go to Ford.


Nowadays maybe, has certainly raced a Ford touring car in the past though.


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Nowadays maybe, has certainly raced a Ford touring car in the past though.


Sure has, his 1st touring car drive was for Mark Petch in the NZ Nissan Mobil series (Wellington street race/Pukekohe) in Sierria RS500. According to his biography he also gave swapping to SBR serious consideration at one stage but even though Ross and Jimmy were supposedly keen, Howard Marsden didn't seem enthusastic so he didn't (figured if the big boss wasn't actively pursuing you then it wasn't worth it). Now with his Holden NZ contract I doubt it will ever happen.


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Greg Murphy's one guy you'll never see go to Ford.


I said the exact same thing about Russell Ingall before he went to SBR.

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Shame to see JC off to Holden, the old Red vs Blue days are long gone, Lowndes high profile move to Ford in 2001 pretty much opened the flood-gates. There are very few one-marque drivers out there anymore.

Have there ever been any major one marque drivers over the years? Johnson started off in a Holden, Brock drove Ford's and BMW's, and Moffat ran Mazda's and Holden's.

You're correct, but it's only since-2001 that high-profile drivers have swapped backwards and forwards at the peak of their careers in huge commercial deals.

Brock driving Sierras was more about his falling out with Holden & the lack of a suitable competitive Holden vehicle, rather than a huge $$$ deal to switch sides. Likewise Johnson's move "over the fence" was obviously very early in his career pre-dating any top level success. I contrast that with drivers like Ingall, Courtney, Whincup, Lowndes, Davison, Bright, etc who have swapped backwards and forwards during the height of their careers.

I guess there are a few that have tended to stay on the same side of the fence... Tander, Murphy, Ambrose, Skaife, Johnson, Winterbottom have all more or less stayed on the same side of the Ford/Holden divide (obviously Skaife drove Nissan's etc, but I always consider the other marques to be separate from the red vs blue "tribes").


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DJR finally confirm that Courtney is leaving (We all knew it was happening, but now it is official.)

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/newsartic ... fault.aspx

And James Moffat is expected to take the 18 seat, but no announcement until the new year.

http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/12/13/ ... ey-at-djr/

And HRT/Bundy Red Team Owner Tom Walkinshaw has died at 64, losing his battle to cancer.

http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/12/13/ ... shaw-dies/

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The V8 Supercars Championship has put its hand up to move some of its event coverage onto the Seven Network’s secondary digital channel.

V8 Supercars chairman Tony Cochrane has said that he is willing to have the V8s broadcast on 7mate to ease the category’s ongoing conflict with the AFL.

If the V8s are shown on Seven’s digital channel 7mate, it would be an Australian first for a major sport to elect to be on a digital channel.

‘Time shifting’ issues at this year’s Bathurst 1000 sparked cries from fans to keep the racing ‘live,’ and with the new anti-siphoning list released recently, Cochrane told The Australian’s marketing writer Simon Canning that he is open to the idea of moving some events over to a digital channel to have them broadcast as quickly as possible.

“We do have a massive problem at Seven and that is the (scheduling) conflict that we run into from time to time with the AFL,” Cochrane told The Australian.

“Our current contract says we have to be on the prime free-to-air channel.

“One of the things that will help in the future will be, for example, that we might put one of our ‘heritage’ events on 7mate with a replay on the main Seven network later in the day.”

Cochrane also told The Australian that he plans to boost the number of V8 Supercars rounds to 18 by 2015, with up to six international events.


http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/12/13/ ... l-channel/

Last line is intresting, six international events. It'll probably be Abu Dhabi, Bahrain, Singapore, South Korea and maybe 2 NZ races. And the AFL taking priority over the V8's is the worst thing ever :yuk:


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You know what, a lot more people like AFL over V8 Supercars, including me, so get the fuck over it. AFL will always win because V8 Supercars have about 1/10th the supporters so stop whining.


Exactly. Even the most die-hard V8 Supercar fan could see that AFL would take preference every day of the week.

And I like the idea of moving some rounds to a digital channel if it stops any clashes with the AFL coverage. Perth I can definately see get moved, otherwise the Sunday race would have to finish at about 1:00 to accomodate the football. And who knows, maybe we could get more than 3-3.5 hour telecasts for normal rounds. Win-win, I say.


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therightformula1 wrote:
And HRT/Bundy Red Team Owner Tom Walkinshaw has died at 64, losing his battle to cancer.

http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/12/13/ ... shaw-dies/



Very very sad news

Here is some footage of him at his very best, behind the wheel rather than behind the desk as he had been for the past two decades.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9I7GWllPFY


Dick Trickle wrote:
And who knows, maybe we could get more than 3-3.5 hour telecasts for normal rounds. Win-win, I say.

That would be ok provided that the telecast actually showed some more racing, most of the telecasts have WAY too much waffle. It takes them an hour and half on a Saturday to get through a 20min qualifying session and a Top 10 run-off..... Raceday Xtra is ok for the supports, but it needs to be integrated into the coverage, like 7 did in the 80s, segregated from it.

Lady Felchington wrote:
I hate the fact that the coverage is split 50-50 between each day. On a Saturday, most people play or watch local sports around where I am, I don't think I've seen a Saturday V8SC race for quite a while, because I'm playing Football or Cricket. Make the focus of the action be on one of the days, which I'm presuming should be Sunday as more people are available..


I can't argue with that. What was wrong with the classic motor racing weekend? Practice Friday, Qualify Saturday, Race on Sunday.... seemed to work for many decades....

Having said that i didn't mind the V8 telecasts that were delayed until 4pm sometimes this year (in NSW anyway), it was just like the early-mid 90s, you could do something with your Sunday, then end it with the touring car meeting.


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