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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:16 am 
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That was a bad way of waking up, I turn on practice 1 and the first thing they say is that they will only broadcast half the races next year (only qualifying and race, no practice I think). Who ever came up with this deal is a complete idiot, why would anyone sign up to Sky for 10 exclusive F1 races a year? The BBC reaches millions around the world with their excellent coverage. I'm so angry :x Sure I can still watch the races on some other channels with commercials and crap commentators, but not in HD and not with the BBC quality of interviews and analysis.

It would have been better to have another FTA channel to broadcast the other 10 races. ITV or Channel 4. Yes there would be commercials but everyone has the chance to see it then. Isn't this still possible? BBC only acquired the FTA rights for 10 races, so the FTA rights for the other 10 races are still available.

And what about the contract BBC had until 2014? Can they just cancel that? They already paid for that so do they get their money back?

When BBC got the rights in 2009 I was very happy, I thought I was set for 6 years without having to look for another channel to see all sessions live. But I don't want to sound selfish, I feel the most sorry for the Brits who can't afford Sky and will only be able to see 10 races live next year. How will that work? Will they alternate each race or will they show like 5 races on BBC and then 5 on Sky? I'd imagine BBC won't show F1 when there are football world championships on or Olympics.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:19 am 
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In May this year Bernie was saying F1 going to Sky would be suicide.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/motorspor ... 5-23116514

And today,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsp ... 550930.stm

Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone told BBC Sport: "It's super for F1. It will mean a lot more coverage for the sport."

Sigh.


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That was a bad way of waking up, I turn on practice 1 and the first thing they say is that they will only broadcast half the races next year (only qualifying and race, no practice I think). Who ever came up with this deal is a complete idiot, why would anyone sign up to Sky for 10 exclusive F1 races a year? The BBC reaches millions around the world with their excellent coverage. I'm so angry :x Sure I can still watch the races on some other channels with commercials and crap commentators, but not in HD and not with the BBC quality of interviews and analysis.

It would have been better to have another FTA channel to broadcast the other 10 races. ITV or Channel 4. Yes there would be commercials but everyone has the chance to see it then. Isn't this still possible? BBC only acquired the FTA rights for 10 races, so the FTA rights for the other 10 races are still available.

And what about the contract BBC had until 2014? Can they just cancel that? They already paid for that so do they get their money back?

When BBC got the rights in 2009 I was very happy, I thought I was set for 6 years without having to look for another channel to see all sessions live. But I don't want to sound selfish, I feel the most sorry for the Brits who can't afford Sky and will only be able to see 10 races live next year. How will that work? Will they alternate each race or will they show like 5 races on BBC and then 5 on Sky? I'd imagine BBC won't show F1 when there are football world championships on or Olympics.


that's our only hope of this shit not happening.


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Murray Walker expresses 'dismay' over BBC/Sky deal. What a man.


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Red One wrote:
In May this year Bernie was saying F1 going to Sky would be suicide.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/motorspor ... 5-23116514

And today,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsp ... 550930.stm

Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone told BBC Sport: "It's super for F1. It will mean a lot more coverage for the sport."

Sigh.



Are you actually suprised by this U-turn of Bernie?

Didn't he do the exact same with Bahrein a mere few weeks ago?
First it must go on this year and suddenly the teams are right and we shouldnt go there....


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Jake: Touching messages of support on Twitter. Keeping some perspective tho, F1 remains on the BBC, and after news of 1 week ago, it's only sport.

Yes Jake, we're all horrified by what happened in Norway. But thats not the point.

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cookie wrote:
And what about the contract BBC had until 2014? Can they just cancel that? They already paid for that so do they get their money back?


BBC aren't losing their rights to show F1 you know.

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They're banking on millions of people paying the monthly fee as its not possible to buy a single race.....


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And what about the contract BBC had until 2014? Can they just cancel that? They already paid for that so do they get their money back?


BBC aren't losing their rights to show F1 you know.


I'm not stupid. They paid to show al F1 sessions live until 2014, but from next year on they will only show half of the races and no more free practice sessions. But it's already been paid for, why not show it then? Did Sky pay them of?


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Thoughts on the deal
http://www.f1zone.net/site/bbcsky-deal- ... r-f1/7858/

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And what about the contract BBC had until 2014? Can they just cancel that? They already paid for that so do they get their money back?


BBC aren't losing their rights to show F1 you know.


I'm not stupid. They paid to show al F1 sessions live until 2014, but from next year on they will only show half of the races and no more free practice sessions. But it's already been paid for, why not show it then? Did Sky pay them of?


Did the contract specify live coverage, or just coverage? They'll still be showing every race but only half of them will be shown live, so presumably that still adheres to the terms of the contract.

Either that or they had some form of get-out clause written into the contract.

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The deal was apparently struck between BBC & Sky, not with Bernie. But seeing as he's happy with the deal, I don't see the issue. He's happier because half the races will now be on both BBC and Sky.

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Very good article Phil! :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:00 pm 
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Interesting poll on Atlas (booooooo!) asking people how they will watch F1 next year.

111 have voted. 22 either have Sky Sports or will upgrade their existing Sky package.

The number of those 89 left who will subscribe to Sky?

1.

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phil1993 wrote:
Wow, Adam Parr sounds like a right C U Next Tuesday!.
"It is not a bloke or two blokes with a tennis racket and a pair of plimsolls with zero cost". Wow, sheer ignorance.


I know, I just posted something about his comments on another forum. What an arrogant twat. I will remember this. Martin Whitmarsh fares little better. The lives of these people have nothing in common with the common man/woman. No doubt many of them have to share the ruthless nature of Ecclestone to get to the top in a particularly elitist 'pinnacle of motorsport'. They should be supporting the outrage of fans ensuring something is done to keep F1 and their sponsors exposed to the widest audience possible, not being restricted to the rich.

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Jake: Touching messages of support on Twitter. Keeping some perspective tho, F1 remains on the BBC, and after news of 1 week ago, it's only sport.


That confirms Jake is a bit of a twat too, don't really care of his 'look on the bright side' PR-man approach, I'll take Martin Brundle and Murray Walker's honesty any day.

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Yeah, but Mark Blundell is interested in a job there. Judging by Skys pundits, he'll get the job.


Ughh, I hope not. The guy can't even string a sentence together in his own language.


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Jake is a BBC drone and will always praise the BBC in whatever decision they take.

In his position, I'd do the same. It's better for Jake himself, really, because he can do the Olympics next year without having to worry about F1.

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I hope some sponsors will leave the sport and state it was because of this TV deal. Only way to hit Bernie and the teams, with taking away some of their money.


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Jake is a BBC drone and will always praise the BBC in whatever decision they take.

In his position, I'd do the same. It's better for Jake himself, really, because he can do the Olympics next year without having to worry about F1.


Yup, he's being groomed for the Olympics as their main anchor.

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Apparently the BBC's deal is in the region of £45m/a year at the moment.

This new deal will save them £16m/year

So they're saving a third, yet showing half. I'm not trained in business or economics, but that doesn't sound like a great deal to me.

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