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codename_47 · PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:35 pm

Well, the marshals get bored as us on dtm race weekends, they gotta do something to try and liven it up

kart99 · PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:38 pm

Mortara's crashed.

Gaara · PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:38 pm

Mortara off

Gaara · PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:44 pm

Rockenfeller wins

krag · PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:53 pm

Penalty for Paffet, Wickens up to 3rd

Gaara · PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:53 pm

What did Paffet get penalised for?

sebbl · PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:57 pm

He went too fast under yellow flag.

StefMeister · PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:56 pm

sebbl wrote:

He went too fast under yellow flag.

He's not happy about it either:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107562

Quote:

"There's a rule in place and we have to abide by the rules, so I'll accept the penalty, but I'm not at all happy about it,"

"Mortara had his accident right in front of me so I had to slow down anyway, and what that meant was that the reference time the officials were looking at was slower than on a normal lap for that sector.

"So then you have to drive to a slower reference time than anybody else, constantly checking your dashboard to make sure you've gone slowly enough to avoid the penalty.

"The problem is that you can drive through there less than half a second slower than normal and still be safe. At that stage of the race you're saving tyres anyway, so you're not going especially quickly."

"The rule we have is not right, it's dangerous even," he added. "You're driving to a delta time to avoid a penalty, rather than driving in a way that's right for the conditions.

"We knew this kind of thing might happen, which was why we asked to have the rule changed before the weekend.

"The rule is just not right and it needs to be changed, but in a way I hope it stays as it is, because if it's changed, we've just lost a podium for no reason."

Mortara doesn't like the rule either:

Quote:

"When you only get yellow flags when you see the stopped car, and you have to slow down or get a penalty, the only choice is to brake on a straight, It's dangerous. To have to brake on a straight, when there are cars all around you, just to reach your delta time... You could cause an accident."

Metzo · PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:51 pm

special livery for Pascal Wehrlein for Spielberg this weekend. VfB Stuttgart will play against FC Bayern on saturday in the german cup final.

SBan83 · PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 3:42 am

StefMeister wrote:

sebbl wrote:

He went too fast under yellow flag.

He's not happy about it either:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107562

Quote:

"There's a rule in place and we have to abide by the rules, so I'll accept the penalty, but I'm not at all happy about it,"

"Mortara had his accident right in front of me so I had to slow down anyway, and what that meant was that the reference time the officials were looking at was slower than on a normal lap for that sector.

"So then you have to drive to a slower reference time than anybody else, constantly checking your dashboard to make sure you've gone slowly enough to avoid the penalty.

"The problem is that you can drive through there less than half a second slower than normal and still be safe. At that stage of the race you're saving tyres anyway, so you're not going especially quickly."

"The rule we have is not right, it's dangerous even," he added. "You're driving to a delta time to avoid a penalty, rather than driving in a way that's right for the conditions.

"We knew this kind of thing might happen, which was why we asked to have the rule changed before the weekend.

"The rule is just not right and it needs to be changed, but in a way I hope it stays as it is, because if it's changed, we've just lost a podium for no reason."

Mortara doesn't like the rule either:

Quote:

"When you only get yellow flags when you see the stopped car, and you have to slow down or get a penalty, the only choice is to brake on a straight, It's dangerous. To have to brake on a straight, when there are cars all around you, just to reach your delta time... You could cause an accident."

I cannot stress how much I hate this rule in all motorsport in general because it's so damn ambiguous. Rule should only be no passing in yellow flag zone. That's fairly straightforward but this 'slow down adequately' crap has to go.

kals · PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 1:26 pm

The problem is Hotdogger is that yellow flags are no longer respected by drivers up and down the various motorsport ladders, which have lead to these silly and ambiguous rules. Yes yellow flags mean "no overtaking" but it also means you're entering a section of the circuit where there is risk to you, the competitors and also track workers, therefore you need to respect the flag accordingly.

I agree the DTM rule is silly but when drivers are still travelling through yellow flags zones at near to 100% race speed, something has to be done to get them to behave because they are clearly not doing that for themselves.

SBan83 · PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 3:08 pm

You're right, I suppose it is better than throwing a full course yellow but really wish there was a better way. Maybe in the future, computers in the cars will automatically alter the speed to exactly what it should be as it enters the zone.

spekktrum · PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:07 pm

Scirocco R-Cup race from Red Bull Ring starts soon:

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/stream/rundstrecke_stream.html

Toto87 · PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:36 pm

Massive crash just now !!

Kelvin won the race. :thumbsup:

maclauren · PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:37 pm

Are they not going to restart it?

LuckyStrike FAN · PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:38 pm

I can't understand, was it a broken suspension or just a dumb rejoining?

Toto87 · PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:41 pm

LuckyStrike FAN wrote:

I can't understand, was it a broken suspension or just a dumb rejoining?

His car was broken, couldn't steer anymore...

maclauren · PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:41 pm

One thing's for sure - that was a massive hit:

LuckyStrike FAN · PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:43 pm

Toto87 wrote:

LuckyStrike FAN wrote:

I can't understand, was it a broken suspension or just a dumb rejoining?

His car was broken, couldn't steer anymore...

All right, otherwise it would be a strange manoeuvre.

spekktrum · PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:01 pm

Carrera Cup next:
http://content2.eu.porsche.com/motorsport/pccd/livestream/livestream-de.htm

EDIT: Start delayed. They will race after the DTM qualy...

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