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Great pass, take that F1 and fucking DRS!

I feel sorry for Toyota for having Lapierre in the car that didn't broke, though. With the #8, I think they would have won it
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or rip them apart due to actually not having a shoestring budget.


do you have any info on how much, obviously on very rough numbers, is each's budget, please?

2012: "Toyota is spending as much as 40 million euros ($50 million) on entering its TS030 hybrid at Le Mans and six other endurance races this year, according to Leupen"
// http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-1 ... -race.html

Audi 2010: 70M eur
// http://archives.tomorrownewsf1.com/budget-audi-sport-100me-14412

Peugeot 2011: 75M eur
// http://www.sportune.fr/sport-business/wrc-peugeot-citroen-et-son-budget-sportif-de-80me-49254
// http://archives.tomorrownewsf1.com/peugeot-sport-la-strategie-de-partir-26174

If anything, since 2010-2011, the budgets should have risen, so the difference might be even bigger. Some things Toyota might be able to do with less money as everything can be built in-house in TMG/Cologne, but since they can't field a 2nd car, it is obvious the actual racing budget is much less than Audi's. Emphasis on 2014 is just excuse.

I think the racing team itself, people from TMG and few from Oreca, are doing very good job, but the people in the boardroom in Japan are still having nightmares about their F1 spending.


Thanks very much for that info :) ;)

Indeed Toyota might save some money on development by having their own facilities while Audi rents Sauber's windtunnel in Hinwill, for instance.

But regardless of their budget being smaller, it won't help either if they don't use it cleverly. If they managed to make the 2013 car progress using few money, then congratulations to them, but how likely is that?

I suspect they just put some significant money into improving a car which won't translate much into the 2014 one.
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Perhaps a putative rival for Audi next year :p 8) :flag:
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Things you do no expect to see - a centurion on horse back, a new Subaru LMP engine, an on time belgian train and a large beer in Cologne...


(the most surprising one is the third, but the most important is the second)

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oh yeah did I mention a not previously rumoured LMP1 design being prepped for 2014?
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I don't get 1st and 3rd :lol:

If even 1/10 or the "rumors" over the years had been true we'd have by now all proto grid.
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