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ChrisTRD · PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:36 pm

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NASCAR FAST FACTS - 2016 Procedural Changes:
Maximum Field Sizes / Corresponding New Points Systems
NASCAR Sprint Cup Series - Maximum 40-car field (36 Charter team cars, 4 Open team cars), race winner awarded 40 points, 40th place awarded one point.
NASCAR XFINITY Series - Maximum 40-car field, race winner awarded 40 points, 40th place awarded one point.
NASCAR Camping World Truck Series - Maximum 32-truck field, race winner awarded 32 points, 32nd place awarded one point
New points systems apply to driver, owner, and manufacturer championships. Existing 2015 Bonus points remain in place for 2016.
Qualifying - NASCAR Sprint Cup Series
Daytona 500 Specific - Thirty-six Charter teams will be assigned a starting position
- Four Open teams are eligible for starting positions
o The highest finishing Open team in each Can-Am Duel race earns a starting position
o The final two starting positions are awarded to Open teams based on Coors Light Pole Qualifying if not already a top finisher in a Duel race
- Qualifying sets the front row for the Daytona 500 and the starting lineup for the Can-Am Duel fields, with the number of Charter team and Open team cars split evenly throughout both races
- If qualifying is cancelled due to weather, the top two finishing Open teams from each Can-Am Duel race earn starting positions in the Daytona 500
- If the second Can-Am Duel race is cancelled due to weather, the highest finishing Open team from the first race earns a starting position, with the other three Open teams determined by qualifying
- If both Can-Am Duel races are cancelled due to weather, qualifying determines all four Open teams
- If qualifying and both Can-Am Duel races are cancelled due to weather, the combined practice speeds are used to determine the four Open teams
- If all on-track activity prior to the race is cancelled due to weather, 2015 Owner points will be used to determine the four Open teams
All Other Championship Race events
- Thirty-six Charter teams will be assigned a starting position and four Open teams are eligible for starting positions.
- Qualifying results will determine the Open team starting positions assuming the event is run as scheduled
- If qualifying is cancelled due to weather, the combined practice speeds determine the four Open teams
- If practice and qualifying are cancelled due to weather, Owner points determine the four Open teams (events 1-3 revert to 2015 Owner points)
(looks like no more past champion provisional)

Vassago · PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:38 pm

ChrisTRD wrote:

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Green-White-Checker finishes become "NASCAR Overtime" For all three NASCAR national series, a race may be concluded with overtime, consisting of a new procedure for a green-white-checkered flag finish featuring an "overtime line." The location of the overtime line will vary by track. After taking the green on the overtime restart, if the leader then passes the overtime line on the first lap under green before a caution comes out (a "clean restart"), it will be considered a valid green-white-checkered attempt. However, if a caution comes out before the leader passes the overtime line on the first lap under green, it will not be considered a valid attempt, and a subsequent attempt will be made. If necessary, multiple subsequent attempts will be made until a valid attempt occurs. Once a valid attempt is achieved (clean restart), it will become the only attempt at a green-white-checkered finish. If a caution comes out at any time during the valid green-white-checkered attempt, the field will be frozen and the checkered/yellow or checkered/red displayed to cars at the finish line

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“The new GWC rules are the direct result of a collective effort from both @NASCAR and the Drivers Council working together."

— Dale Earnhardt Jr. (@DaleJr) February 11, 2016

Perfect recipe for 20 odds cars running out of fuel on the countless restarts. I wonder to how many extra wrecks that would lead? :mrgreen:

Joe A · PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:02 am

Why the fuck do they have to define an overtime line. When the green comes out, it should be a GWC attempt. Rather than restart lines, overtime lines, start-finish lines and other lines, just tell the drivers to quit dicking around and start dropping the hammer on those who do.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:05 am

Congrats nascar you've just ensured almost certain blue balls finishes to plate races forever. :thumbsup:

Soul Reaver · PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:31 am

They will probably change that after another beer shower at Talladega with Jimmie Johnson on the victory lane.

But at least we know when it's a valid restart or not. No confusion like last Dega race.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:57 am

Where's this overtime line going to be? 200m past the green? Backstraight? Tri-oval coming to the white?

It's such a big unknown atm nascar has just wrote themselves a "do whatever the hell we feel like" clause into the rule book

racer612008 · PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:02 am

hearing it will be on the backstraight.

Still confuses me though. Should just be no GWC's on plate tracks if they want to cut them for safety reasons. Doesn't matter as there will be still a massive pileup after a late race caution for a water bottle.

Joe A · PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:03 am

It needs to be a valid restart when the green flag comes out. They're over-legislating restarts. All they need to say is stay in formation until the flagger waves the green, don't do anything silly like jamming on the brakes before the start or some dumb shit like that, but once the green waves, run wild.

ChrisTRD · PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:23 pm

SecretAgentHarvick · PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:53 pm

codename_47 wrote:

Where's this overtime line going to be? 200m past the green? Backstraight? Tri-oval coming to the white?

They said it would be on the backstretch pretty much parallel with the S/F line on the frontstretch. With the exception of Pocono and the road courses which are TBD.

ChrisTRD · PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:12 pm

I don't think it's a bad idea. What I think is a bad idea is the unlimited times the race can be restarted until they hit that line. A guy on XM yesterday had a good suggestion. If you HAVE to do an overtime, make it 3-5 laps and one shot at it. This way drivers aren't going bat crazy on the restart to make up positions as fast as possible. They can use a lap or 2 or 3 to get it done. If the caution comes out, race over.

Andre · PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:21 pm

I dunno - we make jokes about the quality of ARCA drivers all the time, but even with their "unlimited GWC" rule, what's the most they've ever done? Three?

I mean, I remember the craziness at Gateway in the Truck Series one year (I think it was '04, where Crawford and Hamilton got up on their sides), but this is the Cup Series for cryin' out loud. They're *supposed* to be the top level, and keeping in consideration how "amateur" ARCA is and how decently they're handling the unlimited GWC rule, there's no way in hell we should even expect a Cup race to take 4-5 attempts to finish a race.

But... that's just how I'm looking at it.

dr dog · PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:33 pm

The Wood Brothers have resigned from the Race Team Alliance after being shafted by the new charter system.

westracing01 · PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:49 pm

I've said it before, if you going to have a GWC rule to ensure a green flag finish then you better have a green flag finish no matter how many tries it might take. If you go through all this bullshit and the race still ends under yellow then it defeats the whole purpose of having the GWC in the first place. You might as well just run to the advertised distance.

NASCAR's run of recent stupidity is incomprehensible.

Here's a rule straight off the short track... Caution laps don't count in the last 25 laps.

ChrisTRD · PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:57 pm

But they are right off the short track... I mean they have heat races now!

racer612008 · PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:35 pm

ChrisTRD wrote:

But they are right off the short track... I mean they have heat races now!

and they are 1/3rd of the feature race length! :slaphead:

Coyotekart1 · PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:25 pm

racer612008 wrote:

ChrisTRD wrote:

But they are right off the short track... I mean they have heat races now!

and they are 1/3rd of the feature race length! :slaphead:

only certain races should keep the distances they have now l. Charlotte 600, darlington, Daytona, dega and the road courses. Cut the races down in length by at least 1/3 and have separate 25 lap heat races. Based on random draw as to your start in the heat races.

Soul Reaver · PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:52 am

Amazing how nostalgic a movie shot can be just by changing how it was filmed. This is really worth watching. Even the back-flip gets legendary status. Note how much faster the cars go by now, compared to the old shots we see from back in the day.

ChrisTRD · PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:18 pm

That's pretty damn neat.

racer612008 · PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:54 pm

Jeb Burton running for Petty in Xfinity

David Levine running the Truck race at Daytona for MAKE

Garrett Smithley running on a part time schedule in the #0 for JD Motorsports in the Xfinity Series

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