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still looks poorly photoshopped as they added 2 pictures together. See the one labeled photo-2.jpg in the collage posted earlier.

what a clownshow

I reckon it's something like this. Consensual or not, perhaps Red Bull has a policy like this. A few years back the CEO of Intel had to step down because a relationship with an indirect subordinate was outed.

I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes mentally just too much for Horner. Put yourself in his shoes. How would you cope psychologically with this kind of situation, or be able to focus on your work? I would have to call in sick and go to live in some cottage near a lake for 6 months.

I'm married and I have direct reports who are women. I cannot imagine what behaviour of mine could ever be interpreted, misconstrued, or even twisted into sexual harassment. It's not difficult, people. You have to be extra respectful with boundaries, and extra-professional when in position of power over someone (and no, I don't avoid getting into elevators when we're speaking/walking one-on-one). Which most of the time, really just amounts to truly respecting the people around you in general.

So, sorry, I cannot put myself in his shoes really. Just an unimaginable situation because it's outside my values and the way I lead my life. So yeah, I'm gonna turn the tables around: such things mostly happen to men who are looking for them.

We have a saying here that is "Don't eat the meat where you earn your bread", which I think is pretty adequate for this sort of scenario.

Don't dip your pen in the company's ink, in ENglish

IN French we say: don't go to the bakery with a baguette. Oh no wait, that's for not taking your wife when you go to the dance club

You can't expect all people be perfect. People make mistakes, are immature, get led by their emotions etc. That doesn't make a person vile. It's just human. I am no perfect, nor I expect others to be. The question is, what is an adequate punishment for the lapse of moral character? Or should there be a punishment? If nothing illegal has happened, then the person should be free to go on. The core of western values is that punishment shouldn't be treated as a revenge. Even a murderer or rapist must be given a second chance after serving the punishment. If one doesn't agree with this, well, there many non-western cultures where lynching is still commonplace.

I'm not talking about Horner's case, because I don't know what the case is.
EDIT: Just to clarify. I tend to judge people as a whole, not by a single act. If a person has been 100% good (=saint level) but then makes one drunken mistake, he's still been 99,999% good. I'm sure Horner is not a bad person and doesn't deserve to be treated like one...unless they find sex slaves from his cellar.

In Australia (and other places probably) we have the much more charming "Don't shit where you eat"

Also have any of these messages been proven to be real? Are we all still in the alleged category, otherwise our joking about it just lets whoever's trying to knock him off win.

I do think if the messages were fake, Horner or Red Bull would have come out saying that, which they haven't.

I don't think Toto or Zac are helping things - they should know that grievances are meant to be confidential and none of thesw leaks should have happened



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Having read all of them (I had a busy Friday at work) they seem pretty realistic to me. A few industry names mentioned, just the right level of cringe to the flirting befitting a man in power who clearly hasn't got game, etc. The least convincing part are the photos, but overall I'm buying it at the moment. If it is true I'm wondering who the "that's sexual harassment" message is, and whether they were the leaker.

Also, if true this is a terrible look for Red Bull. Curious what they plan on doing to get clear of this after apparently giving a workplace sexual harasser the thumbs up, or if they'll just bury their head in the sand and hope people forget.

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Why are the images of the messages such shit quality? Surely if this was supposedly the evidence that "exposed the truth" then you would make sure that it was as clean and legible as possible.

However, if they were decent, that would mean people could analyse them and interrogate them in much greater detail. And if they have been fabricated, then that's what you don't want. So you make them look like shit.

That's one's here aren't shit quality

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Yea I tend to agree with you here, although I would imagine Horner would have more game tbh (he married one of the most desired people of the 90's)

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I read them and was like "Seriously? He should be fired for the absolute woefulness of the texts." They read like a fourteen year old learnt on how to flirt on the internet.

A powerful and wealthy man will be so desired that he doesn't need to have game and it surely will weaken with time. We the regular Joes are the ones who need better game

Ñow Jos wants Horner out. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/horn ... /10582527/

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Bit rich of that wife and girlfriend beater saying "He is playing the victim, when he is the one causing the problems". Well Joss, you can always tell your son to go elsewhere.

I wonder how much he was paid to make that statement.