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And now Osaka in Japan is interested in having a street track. I used to like street tracks when there wasn't many. Now? Can they please just pick the 4 best ones?


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Now get some ovals, 1/3 street tracks, 1/3 road courses and 1/3 ovals and f1 has made the perfect Indycar calendar


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Now get some ovals, 1/3 street tracks, 1/3 road courses and 1/3 ovals and f1 has made the perfect Indycar calendar


The perfect IndyCar calendar is 1/5 big ovals, 1/5 small ovals, 1/5 road, 1/5 street and 1/5 airport imho. :p 4 races each


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the first sectors of the track show some elevation changes but is more like trying to replicate Jeddah, but the final sector is simply crap, like Yas Marina before the layout change or Sochi

dunny why not they try an airport track, loads of runoff, big wide lanes which provide huge DRS battles

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dunny why not they try an airport track, loads of runoff, big wide lanes which provide huge DRS battles


Technically Silverstone is an "airport track"... that uses none of the old runways. :p

Formula E uses Tempelhof sometimes, but even that track only uses the concrete around the former hangars. Using the old runways, in theory you could probably come up with a "Cleveland Burke Lakefront for Formula 1" style "street circuit" race layout there. I doubt this will ever happen, of course...


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Ah yes, the Cleveland Indy races. Where all drivers had their own racing lines, nobody did the same and it all worked!


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and where the first turn bottlenecked a pretty wide race track in which mess ensued at nearly every single start

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:06 pm 
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And now Osaka in Japan is interested in having a street track. I used to like street tracks when there wasn't many. Now? Can they please just pick the 4 best ones?


Also, street circuits were a total different animal in the past. Current ones are not what we used to have in mind when the term "street cicuit" came to mind.


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Albert Park and Montreal are also officially street tracks, even if they have a proper racetrack feeling.


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I have never counted them as "proper" street circuits as they have (or in case of Montreal, used to have) grass and gravel traps. Actually I wouldn't be so mad about new street circuits if they were similar to Albert Park.

Btw, where do you classify Bathurst?


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I think we should get used to "urban" tracks if we want motorsports to survive the next couple decades.

Nobody will dedicate new land to new racing tracks anymore. Old tracks will get closed, either when caught by urban sprawl (sound nuisance), or get financially/politically abandoned to be reclaimed by nature or serve less 'selfish' and elitist purposes. The younger public will be less car-centric, and hence more favourable to go to closer tracks by public transportation. Not to mention their shorter attention spans that will prefer a commute over a day, rather than a 3-day camping out in the wild.

Racing inevitably getting more and more electrified once oil gets rarer and more precious/expensive, it will only accelerate this urbanisation tendency - both to avoid wasting oil going circles, and because the public will have less affordable personal ICE transportation.

The big classics (Le Mans, Indy, Spa, Nordshleife) may remain but become a minority. I wouldn't be mad, as a race fan I won't fight this, we must set aside our selfish nostalgia for a bigger purpose. And it's still better than clinging to the past and ending up with no racing at all.


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It literally can't be any worse than the annual procession of Barcelona, so I say bring it on

It can be just as bad, I guess, but it can't be any worse.

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It literally can't be any worse than the annual procession of Barcelona, so I say bring it on

It can be just as bad, I guess, but it can't be any worse.

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2010 and 2012 were great races there though, so I don't know what to tell ya....

Also that banked corner halfway around the lap looks SWEET...

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racing is changing so drastically fast in the past decade that I might consider dropping watching entirely if they shut down classic courses or doesn't make "classic" racing series like historic F1 or EuroBoss

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Yep. I wouldn't watch Football, Tennis or Golf if they had changed as drastically as F1 (whatever might be equivalent changes for those sports).
Why is it that other sports can remain basically the same as they were 20+ years ago, but F1 had to be changed beyond recognition little by little? Boss GP would be so popular if it had grid of 22 full of ex-F1 drivers or F2 rejects instead of total nobodies.


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You guys do know the sport is at it's highest level of popularity, in history?


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Could have more popularity if they listened to the fans in the first place

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