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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:00 pm 
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Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps
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Last year's farce
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Top 10 qualified drivers earned half points for 2 laps behind SC in a race that didn't happened. Verstappen got a victory and Russell got his first podium.

Season standings
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DRIVERS
POS   DRIVER   NATIONALITY   CAR   PTS
1   Max Verstappen   NED   RED BULL RACING RBPT   258
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   FERRARI   178
3   Sergio Perez   MEX   RED BULL RACING RBPT   173
4   George Russell   GBR   MERCEDES   158
5   Carlos Sainz   ESP   FERRARI   156
6   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   MERCEDES   146
7   Lando Norris   GBR   MCLAREN MERCEDES   76
8   Esteban Ocon   FRA   ALPINE RENAULT   58
9   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   ALFA ROMEO FERRARI   46
10   Fernando Alonso   ESP   ALPINE RENAULT   41
11   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   HAAS FERRARI   22
12   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   MCLAREN MERCEDES   19
13   Pierre Gasly   FRA   ALPHATAURI RBPT   16
14   Sebastian Vettel   GER   ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES   16
15   Mick Schumacher   GER   HAAS FERRARI   12
16   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   ALPHATAURI RBPT   11
17   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   ALFA ROMEO FERRARI   5
18   Lance Stroll   CAN   ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES   4
19   Alexander Albon   THA   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   3
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   0
21   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES   0

CONSTRUCTORS
POS   TEAM   PTS
1   RED BULL RACING RBPT   431
2   FERRARI   334
3   MERCEDES   304
4   ALPINE RENAULT   99
5   MCLAREN MERCEDES   95
6   ALFA ROMEO FERRARI   51
7   HAAS FERRARI   34
8   ALPHATAURI RBPT   27
9   ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES   20
10   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   3


Timetable
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FRIDAY 26th AUGUST

FIA Formula 3   Practice Session   10:25 - 11:10
FIA Formula 2   Practice Session   11:35 - 12:20
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   12:30 - 13:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   12:30 - 13:30
FIA   F1 Car Presentation   12:30 - 13:30
Promoter Activity   Historic F1 Demonstration   13:05 - 13:25
FORMULA 1   FIRST PRACTICE SESSION   14:00 - 15:00
FIA Formula 3   Qualifying Session   15:30 - 16:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   16:05 - 16:35
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   16:05 - 16:35
FIA Formula 3   Press Conference   16:30 - 17:00
FORMULA 1   SECOND PRACTICE SESSION   17:00 - 18:00
Promoter Activity   Historic F1 Demonstration   18:05 - 18:20
FIA Formula 2   Qualifying Session   18:30 - 19:00
Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup   Practice Session   19:25 - 20:10
FIA Formula 2   Press Conference   19:30 - 20:00

SATURDAY 27th AUGUST

Formula 1   Teams Press Conference   10:30 - 11:30
FIA Formula 3   Sprint Race (15 Laps or 40 Mins +1 Lap)   10:35 - 11:20
Formula 1   Team Pit Stop Practice   11:30 - 12:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   11:30 - 12:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   11:30 - 12:00
FIA Formula 3   Press Conference   11:50 - 12:20
Promoter Activity   Zapata vs F1 Car   12:05 - 12:30
FORMULA 1   THIRD PRACTICE SESSION   13:00 - 14:00
Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup   Qualifying Session   14:30 - 15:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   15:05 - 15:35
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   15:05 - 15:35
Promoter Activity   Red Devils Aerobatic Display   15:15 - 15:30
FORMULA 1   QUALIFYING SESSION   16:00 - 17:00
Formula 1   Press Conference   17:00 - 18:00
Formula 1   AMG 55th Anniversary Demonstration   19:00 - 19:20
FIA Formula 2   Sprint Race (18 Laps or 45 Mins +1 Lap)   18:00 - 18:50
Promoter Activity   Historic F1 Demonstration   19:00 - 19:20
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   19:00 - 19:40
FIA Formula 2   Press Conference   19:10 - 19:40
F1 Experiences   F1 Experiences Champions Club Grid Walk & Trophy Photo   19:25 - 20:25

SUNDAY 28th AUGUST

FIA Formula 3   Feature Race (18 Laps or 45 Mins +1 Lap)   08:50 - 09:40
FIA Formula 2   Feature Race (25 Laps or 60 Mins +1 Lap)   10:20 - 11:25
FIA Formula 2   Press Conference   11:45 - 12:15
Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup   Race (12 Laps or 30 Mins)   12:05 - 12:40
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Track Tour   12:55 - 13:25
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   12:55 - 13:55
Formula 1   Drivers' Parade   13:00 - 13:30
Promoter Activity   Red Devils Aerobatic Display   14:10 - 14:20
Formula 1   National Anthem   14:44 - 14:46
FORMULA 1   GRAND PRIX (44 LAPS OR 120 MINS)   15:00 - 17:00


let's see if this time we can actually have some 3 laps of green flag racing

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let's see if this time we can actually have some 3 laps of green flag racing

Possibly, but possibly not.
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I think Liberty Media would prefer that the race gets cancelled. Gives them a good excuse to replace Spa with Dubai, Kuwait or some other oil tyranny. But let's hope it will be the best race of the century, so they are forced to keep it, lest they lose all fans.

Looking forward to see how many drivers will get stuck into the new gravel traps. No more going wide without punishment :twisted:
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Even it the race is great, Spa won't be back next year.

Doubt it will rain, all forecasts say a very small chance of a shower on Sunday. It's going to be rather warm this week though and temps will drop next weekend so storms might be brewing.

Also how will Ferrari throw this one away?


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meanwhile Domenicali claims that F1 will not sell its soul

even parrots can speak so let's see him declaring that negotiations were tough but unsuccessful, while they add another street race in America and a night race in Qatar

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He's just a little puppet. :lol:


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I can honestly say, as a Yank, that I'd give up all three US races to save the European heritage tracks on the schedule.

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They promised the return of gravel to Eau Rouge and thatsradillionactually and instead, they gave us this:

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Maybe F1 should leave here before they butcher it any more... :ohmy:

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Oh dear God. Have they gone all Paul Riccrad with the paint? I honestly believe that a lot of the big smashes at that corner is down to the run off, not the lack of it, rather the invitation of it allowing drivers to take unreasonable and dangerous entries into it.

Unless they put down a great big gravel trap where the wall used to be at the exit, that is an open invitation for drivers to straight line the corner or try unrealistic overtaking attempts.

If they are going to use Hubert as an example I hate to tell them that that accident was going to happen regardless of the removal of the inside wall.


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Everyone who wants rain must forget last year. That should not have been a race.

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Media are starting to get filled by current and former drivers, fans and other people involved in racing stating that Spa should stay on the calendar. I hope Liberty gets the message. Probably not though, why would they listen. There's money to be earned on other places.


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If I was Lewis, I'd come to Friday's press conference and state: "I will retire from F1 if Spa won't return next year. I'm dead serious. So, make your choice, Liberty Media." And then other drivers would join him, saying "I'm Spartacus".

That would show 'em.


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knowing Lewis, he'll say at the press conference that after the summer break, he is better prepared than ever, or hungrier than ever, or something similar.


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LucasWheldon wrote:
meanwhile Domenicali claims that F1 will not sell its soul

even parrots can speak so let's see him declaring that negotiations were tough but unsuccessful, while they add another street race in America and a night race in Qatar

Article says 2019 was the last year we had a GP in Germany. Clearly they forgot 2020 when F1 raced at the Nürburgring.


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knowing Lewis, he'll say at the press conference he is hungrier than ever.

And it shows.
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That's not Lewis, that's Luis!


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each dollar spent by other country to have a race instead of Spa will be one dead penguin in Patagonia. Put your hand on your conscience Liberty

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What corners have changed from last year? That looks like La Source with gravel on the exit. I like. Eau Rouge visually looks meh, but it's pretty much the same (the left hand wall has been moved back?). Anywhere else with gravel? Les Combes was always better with grass, so you couldn't cut the corner and gain time. Bruxelles/Rivage is a corner that really needs its gravel back.


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I think there are pictures in the track thread in the general motorsport forum. But IIRC Malmedy has gravel back on the outside, Bruxelles has the same tarmac-gravel setup as Abbey, as does Blanchimont.

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It seems that they also smoothened the angle of the wall that Magnussen smacked in the Renault in 2016. That one was ridiculous to begin with.

I'm excited for Spa for the first time since years. The recent 2017-2021 era with ridiculous amounts of downforce (Pouhon flat or almost flat in qualy, Stavelot 2 flat,...), and cars that can't follow each other in corners, made it dull in terms of multi-car racing and unappealing in single car racing.


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