2022 Formula One Random Discussion Thread

Schumifan · PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:38 pm

I seem to be in the minority because I think an F1 race along the Strip is pretty damn cool. Yeah the layout isn't amazing but that's not the point, as long as it's not terrible it'll do the job

Dan Belcher · PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:09 pm

Yeah, going to Vegas is already one of my favorite things, I can't imagine how cool it'd be to go there for an F1 race. I'm sure it'll be insanely expensive and price out us normal people though.

westracing01 · PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:03 pm

As an American... I long for a return to a more traditional schedule of European centric tracks.

One of the attractions to me of F1 is that it's NOT here. We don't need three races. Americans are fickle and Miami along with Vegas will be gone within a few years. There are precious few of us that have gotten up at 7AM on a Sunday for the last 30 years to watch a race we pretty well knew was over after qualifying... Yet we did it anyway. I understand the want to expand that and grow from the precious few, but they would do well to understand why there are comparatively so few of us in the first place.

The casual fans that are coming into the sport now will, in all likelihood, not stay when they realize that what they've seen on Netflix isn't what the championship is really like.

Beware Formula 1 of treading the same worn ground that NASCAR walked and has spent a decade and a half trying to find it's way back on the right path.

What made Formula 1 great in 1992 would still work today if they'd just let it. They're trying so hard to bring the sport to the people (which is what these goddamn street course are all about) instead of working to bring the people to the sport. You don't change who you are to suit the audience as it's a constantly moving target.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:38 pm

I'm pretty sure they'll tie in the race with music concerts or other events to draw a bigger audience

Karan · PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:05 pm

Omega wrote:

Track looks like a drawing of a pig made by an untalented kid

I thought it looked more like a drawing of a cow hanging upside down...

Omega · PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:06 pm

Juihi wrote:

Omega wrote:

Track looks like a drawing of a pig made by an untalented kid

yep, because it's a greenfields site and they have lots of scope..... oh no wait, it's a fucken street track with confines :slaphead:

really? You don´t see an upside down pig in it?
https://www.racefans.net/2022/03/31/f1-new-race-las-vegas-grand-prix-saturday-night-2023/b-6/

micha · PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:04 pm

westracing01 wrote:

What made Formula 1 great in 1992

what F1 made great in 1992 was easy access. I could watch on the BBC, On Eurosport, German RTL or Dutch RTL. And that was all part of the default tv package my parents had.

Now everyone has to pay extra for it and in some cases quite a lot extra. And like you said, Netflix might bring in new fans for now but once they realize its not like in DtS they'll be gone again.

MotoKris1 · PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:27 pm

Kinda boring layout. I made a small path of it in Google Earth.

First corners will be at parking section and T6 will be in place which is still not finished (at least at google images)

That main straight section from T9 -> T11 have about 1900m :8:

They really love making street tracks with massive speeds now

Straight between T4 and T5 will have something like 900m

EAS · PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:05 pm

Well, that looks like just another American street circuit like the ones that were around in the '80s and early '90s. It feels half Phoenix half Long Beach actually.

Cheeveer · PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:58 pm

Juihi wrote:

Cheeveer wrote:

glorified Formula E tracks

ugh, so over it. 3rd race in the US... I know the speech about distance from Austin and Miami, blabla, but that is not the point. The point is representation. No race at all in Africa, only one in South America. Speak all you will about "markets" and so on, but I think it is detrimental to F1's status to sell yourself to US special interests like this, a country which has fewer TV viewers than Austria...

For the US size and population, I think 3 races is appropriate, plus it's a growing market, so you need to captialise on it, it would dumb for F1 to just ignore the growing momentum it has

maybe

curious of what the TV audience is in Argentina and South Africa, on a semi-related note

webbsy · PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:35 am

Two DRS zones....on the same straight? How long is Baku's section?

Having never been to Vegas, I checked out the Vegas Strip on Google Maps, and um, if street view is anything to go by, they will need to do a good job of resurfacing the road. That road condition looks atrocious. And it goes from 5-6 lanes wide to 4 lanes wide in several sections. That doesn't seem very wide for a 340+ kph 2km long blast.

Coldtyre · PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:32 am

webbsy wrote:

And it goes from 5-6 lanes wide to 4 lanes wide in several sections. That doesn't seem very wide for a 340+ kph 2km long blast.

micha · PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:48 am

Liberty I’d hellbend on 23 races so we’re going to Qatar after all

EAS · PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:56 pm

Cheeveer wrote:

Juihi wrote:

Cheeveer wrote:

glorified Formula E tracks

ugh, so over it. 3rd race in the US... I know the speech about distance from Austin and Miami, blabla, but that is not the point. The point is representation. No race at all in Africa, only one in South America. Speak all you will about "markets" and so on, but I think it is detrimental to F1's status to sell yourself to US special interests like this, a country which has fewer TV viewers than Austria...

For the US size and population, I think 3 races is appropriate, plus it's a growing market, so you need to captialise on it, it would dumb for F1 to just ignore the growing momentum it has

maybe

curious of what the TV audience is in Argentina and South Africa, on a semi-related note

At least with Argentina, the problem is their terribly inflationary economy which will drop the market value significantly even if the total market size, in terms of population, keeps stable or grows.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:43 pm

the argentines also love motorsports in general, their local championships have very talented drivers and good racing overall, the problem is mostly economic so F1 there is quite impossible

peterohanrahanrahan · PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:32 am

I jogged a lap of the Albert Park grand prix circuit and the new turn 9 section looks incredible. No run off just slight bends with concrete walls both sides. Although it means the massive viewing area is now redundant.

Oh and the weather forecast looks fantastic. Mid-high 20's the whole weekend and no rain.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:27 am

LucasWheldon wrote:

the argentines also love motorsports in general, their local championships have very talented drivers and good racing overall, the problem is mostly economic so F1 there is quite impossible

last Argentine driver was the GOAT, Mazzacane

webbsy · PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:45 am

peterohanrahanrahan wrote:

I jogged a lap of the Albert Park grand prix circuit and the new turn 9 section looks incredible. No run off just slight bends with concrete walls both sides. Although it means the massive viewing area is now redundant.

Oh and the weather forecast looks fantastic. Mid-high 20's the whole weekend and no rain.

That viewing area was one of the biggest general admission viewing spots. Have they moved to mostly grandstand seating now?

peterohanrahanrahan · PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:09 am

webbsy wrote:

peterohanrahanrahan wrote:

I jogged a lap of the Albert Park grand prix circuit and the new turn 9 section looks incredible. No run off just slight bends with concrete walls both sides. Although it means the massive viewing area is now redundant.

Oh and the weather forecast looks fantastic. Mid-high 20's the whole weekend and no rain.

That viewing area was one of the biggest general admission viewing spots. Have they moved to mostly grandstand seating now?

The hill is still there, and there's a grandstand on the outside of the corner (pretty much where the corner entry would be) but there's no other grand stands there.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:38 pm

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... mobilwoche
apparently Audi is going for a big stake in McLaren, including the supercar division

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