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Brundle’s “x driver owns the corner” bullshit drives me fucking insane. It’s not your goddamn corner if someone is next to you. How else are you supposed to race if the guy in front is just entitled to do whatever the hell he wants just because he’s ahead?


Yeah, this argument completely falls apart when a left turn leads into a right one. You can't own a chicane.


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He only gets pushed to second?


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Mazepin shows what the qualifying airborne crash could have been this weekend.


Imagine if that incident had occurred a couple seconds before Mazepin arrived on the scene. It would've been catastrophic at racing speeds or if Russell had been turned sideways.

Not a fan of this track all. As others have said, it looks fun for hot lapping, but as far racing for F1 is concerned, it's poorly designed. We may get lucky this season or next season, but it's a catastrophic incident waiting to happen.


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Wait but Ocon was ahead of Hamilton


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Mazepin shows what the qualifying airborne crash could have been this weekend.


Imagine if that incident had occurred a couple seconds before Mazepin arrived on the scene. It would've been catastrophic at racing speeds or if Russell had been turned sideways.

Not a fan of this track all. As others have said, it looks fun for hot lapping, but as far racing for F1 is concerned, it's poorly designed. We may get lucky this season or next season, but it's a catastrophic incident waiting to happen.


I would be amazed (but not surprised) if F1 comes back here again. Tilke hasn't covered himself in glory with this circuit.


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Are they going back to the order of the 2nd start? Or else how is that fair on Ocon?


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God this is so stupid.


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This is just a mess


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What's all this bullshit about offers? Reaching Barnhart levels of race control


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1 ocon
2 lewis
3 max is the offer fia propose


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Ocon
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Just give him 5 seconds like you did in the F2 race.

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Man, I might be old and forgetful but I don't remember Hill and Schumacher ever having this vitriolic a relationship. Perhaps it would have looked different if we had all the radio...


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Are they going back to the order of the 2nd start? Or else how is that fair on Ocon?

Offer from Masi is Ocon, Hamilton, Verstappen

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I knew the championship will eventually be decided by Masi. :yuk:


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What the hell are the race director and the Red Bull team manager going on about?

It's either going back to the lap before or restarting with the current standings, with a potential penalty for Verstappen.

"I'm giving you the chance..." No, you don't make offers, you just have to enforce rules and not turn this into a travesty like Spa.

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On the plus side for Max, he can leave Hamilton to sit there for 30 seconds this time around.

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Race on normal circuits where gravel won't allow cutting. Problem solved


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Chris A wrote:
Brundle’s “x driver owns the corner” bullshit drives me fucking insane. It’s not your goddamn corner if someone is next to you. How else are you supposed to race if the guy in front is just entitled to do whatever the hell he wants just because he’s ahead?


Yeah, this argument completely falls apart when a left turn leads into a right one. You can't own a chicane.


The ONLY time any of that logic would apply is if someone just divebombs the leading driver on the inside. The leading driver deserves his lane/line in that case. Otherwise, if you don’t give someone room while they’re alongside you, you’re being an asshole.


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Just wondering why Red Bull didn't decline Masi's offer and allow it to be referred to the stewards, it likely would've resulted in a 5sec time penalty, likely applied at the end of the race as we're not expecting anymore pit stops. With the race pace that Verstappen has, and with Ocon still in front of Hamilton, it's very likely that he could've built up and maintained a 5 second gap. And if not, then he would've dropped to 2nd at worst.


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