2020 Formula One Random Discussion Thread

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:53 am

whoever came up with that is a genius

micha · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:31 am

was gonna post that too. Cant see that being legal tbh.

webbsy · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:35 am

So while every one is banging in the laps Renault are doing another 2 hour "driver swap".

Fabs · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:39 am

Gabriel wrote:

Apparently the Renault is looking good.

Ocon claims it has experienced "the most grip he ever felt in a car". Others have said it looks very fast.

Ocon tested with Mercedes, right (other than sim work)? Because if not, he may just be saying that the 2018 Force India was shit, haha.

I doubt this. Most signals and rumours are that there are delays in crash testing, there's reliability issues and I've seen Ocon quoted as saying "It's a pretty decent base".

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:44 am

webbsy wrote:

So while every one is banging in the laps Renault are doing another 2 hour "driver swap".

laps are more important in the first test

but hey, let's pay Ricciardo some more money :whistling:

micha · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:49 am

I can see Williams passing Renault this year. Yes I said that.

Renault will focus 100% on 2021. Especially if the 2020 car turns out to be a turd.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:57 am

Williams will get a podium before Renault do

Fabs · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:06 pm

https://www.pitpass.com/66609/On-board- ... f-Mercedes

One to follow

Omega · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:06 pm

mclaren2008 wrote:

Williams will get a podium before Renault do

in 2019, all podium places were divided between the same 5 drivers, with only 3 exceptions (2x Toro Rosso, 1x McLaren). I doubt Williams and Renault will be anywhere close to a podium this year.

micha · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:19 pm

Omega wrote:

mclaren2008 wrote:

Williams will get a podium before Renault do

in 2019, all podium places were divided between the same 5 drivers, with only 3 exceptions (2x Toro Rosso, 1x McLaren). I doubt Williams and Renault will be anywhere close to a podium this year.

well, he didnt specify a season. Just that Williams will get a podium before Renault

deggis · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:35 pm

Fabs wrote:

https://www.pitpass.com/66609/On-board-footage-raises-questions-over-legality-of-Mercedes

One to follow

Quote:

Such a system would breach Article 10.2.3 of the technical regulations which stipulate that "no adjustment may be made to any suspension system while the car is in motion.

"With the steering wheel fixed, the position of each wheel centre and the orientation of its rotation axis must be completely and uniquely defined by a function of its principally vertical suspension travel, save only for the effects of reasonable compliance which does not intentionally provide further degrees of freedom.

"Any powered device which is capable of altering the configuration or affecting the performance of any part of any suspension system is forbidden."

micha · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:52 pm

but is it powered if its done by hand?

Also, I get the feeling that this is to blatantly obvious that its used to hide something else. People will fume over this, it gets banned and the thing they really wanted on the car goes unnoticed for now.

Fabs · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:30 pm

deggis wrote:

Fabs wrote:

https://www.pitpass.com/66609/On-board-footage-raises-questions-over-legality-of-Mercedes

One to follow

Quote:

Such a system would breach Article 10.2.3 of the technical regulations which stipulate that "no adjustment may be made to any suspension system while the car is in motion.

"With the steering wheel fixed, the position of each wheel centre and the orientation of its rotation axis must be completely and uniquely defined by a function of its principally vertical suspension travel, save only for the effects of reasonable compliance which does not intentionally provide further degrees of freedom.

"Any powered device which is capable of altering the configuration or affecting the performance of any part of any suspension system is forbidden."

Apparantly it applies to 10.4 in the rulebook and not 10.2. Wait and see.

https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/1230474278866386944

Fabs · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:58 pm

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... a/4689138/

Wonder how much laptime it's worth.

micha · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:22 pm

Am I the only one wondering how save this actually is? The whole steering rack would be one of the last things I'd want to fail on the car and now its designed to move around. Just more things that can go wrong.

Omega · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:24 pm

Fabs wrote:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-confident-legality-das-steering-mode-fia/4689138/

Wonder how much laptime it's worth.

or how long it will take before the other teams use it, causing it to be banned before the end of the season.

micha · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:33 pm

RP said it would take about half a season for them apparently. So max 1/4 of a season for RBR and Ferrari.

StefMeister · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:08 pm

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:40 pm

since they are using this thing on broad daylight they're very aware it can get away

unless that gives Mercedes a huge advantage so it should be banned and they must be obliged to run Monza downforce on high downforce tracks and Monaco downforce at Monza and Spa

FiatFan83 · PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:52 pm

micha wrote:

Am I the only one wondering how save this actually is? The whole steering rack would be one of the last things I'd want to fail on the car and now its designed to move around. Just more things that can go wrong.

Guess LH really does idolize Senna...

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