2017 F1 Random Discussion Thread

Sergio · PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:22 pm

This guy copied some old engine sound over the v6 sound.
Ok i know things change and we have deal with the v6 today
Somehow hearing the old engine sounds it has passion for sure but it has also something outdated.

Ok drooling is done now back to 2017

Neil · PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:25 pm

Honda used "at least 5" engines in the four day test. Ok, so it's Andrew Benson, but it's believable.

http://bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/39151187

siggy · PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:40 pm

Who cares? The only mafunacturer will win. What a surprise, what an achievement. They can be proud....

Justin Time · PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:58 am

Sergio wrote:

This guy copied some old engine sound over the v6 sound.
Ok i know things change and we have deal with the v6 today
Somehow hearing the old engine sounds it has passion for sure but it has also something outdated.

Ok drooling is done now back to 2017

Dear god. You just made my weekend. That was beautiful.

Soul Reaver · PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:07 am

Yeah, I though I lost part of my enthusiasm with F1 due to the new car sound, now I'm totally sure. They say that sound is 50% of a movie. In F1 for me it was 60%, really miss it.

Fabs · PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:59 am

Neil wrote:

Ok, so it's Andrew Benson, but it's believable.

Does Andrew Benson suck or someting? :tumble:

Lucasjeha · PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:43 pm

StefMeister wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/1129648.stm

Quote:

The Italian's car somersaulted after losing a wheel while travelling at over 180mph at the Circuit de Catalunya near Barcelona in Spain.

Badoer's car lost a wheel before somersaulting and landing over a tyre barrier, according to a witness at the Circuit de Catalunya near Barcelona.

Thanks man!

SFM · PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:05 pm

Sergio wrote:

This guy copied some old engine sound over the v6 sound.
Ok i know things change and we have deal with the v6 today
Somehow hearing the old engine sounds it has passion for sure but it has also something outdated.

Ok drooling is done now back to 2017

We can make this reality? :mrgreen:

Artur Craft · PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:40 am

gkmotorsport wrote:

I'm not an expert here, but I have read theories that suggest Formula E cars do not put their tyres under quite as much stress as F1 cars...

FE's tyres are skinny and full of grooves which means a very little contact patch has to do all the work. Also, there is no management, they are pushed the entire stint, unlike on fragile F1 tyres

gkmotorsport wrote:

I'm surprised there is any speculation here. Michelin's inters were well known as far inferior to Bridgestone's for some time. Good Year pulled out of F1 because they couldn't match Bridgestone on quality and performance. Ditto Pirelli in the early 90s with Good Year. In the early 00s drivers complained constantly that only Ferrari could get Bridgestone tyres to work. Tyres vary in performance and drivers and teams complain about them. This is not new or unusual.

I don't remember in the early years but, in 2006, the Michelin wets were far superior than Bridgestone's as Hungary and China showed but, still, I don't remember "Bridgestone drivers" complaining about the handling of the tyres, just about it's lack of pace. The same on IMSA where people complain about Hoosier/Continentals lack of pace and not of it's handling.

Tyres' testings on IMSA or FE are very limited too and their spec tyres are very acceptable. To me this is just the perfect excuse for a subpar company like Pirelli. If there was competition, they would be shown up pretty badly as was the case on 80's/90's against GoodYear

Don't worry, Pirelli will stay. Teams and drivers don't like them, never did, but Liberty Media will love Pirelli's qualities($$$), as FOM has for so many years

You guys may dislike me for bashing Pirelli and not liking them at all but be aware that I'm not alone. After a quick google search:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2015/08/16/m ... ht-for-f1/
Keith and most of the readers there are also not fond of Pirelli

And here's the really hard one:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/34399289

Quote:

One top driver told BBC Sport: "We agreed to carry on talking to Pirelli, but that's not the main question. The question is could they produce the tyres we want even if they were asked to?"

Many leading engineers told Ecclestone in a meeting earlier this year they believed the current tyres were the best Pirelli could provide.

On this other one you have it clear why Pirelli is here:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/34313145

Quote:

Pirelli pays Ecclestone's Formula 1 Management company (FOM) $40m (£25.75m) a year for extensive trackside advertising.

Insiders believe the 84-year-old will base his final decision on tyre supplier purely on the financial gain for the sport's owners.

Finally, I felt some mockery on your post(maybe I'm wrong and I have nothing against you) but, if you are "rite", Nigel Roebuck is also an idiot(like me):

Quote:

By general consent – if rarely admitted on the record – F1 people had long considered that Michelin made better racing tyres than any other company, in terms of both engineering and quality control. And while we're about it, we could throw in integrity: if they got it badly wrong at Indianapolis 10 years ago, at least they faced up to it, and made financial reparation to the fans, whose afternoon had been ruined. I admired that response, and am not convinced that every company associated with F1 would have made it.

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opini ... -formula-1

I'm sure most members here woud hate Nigel after reading the other stuff he says there...

Sorry, I didn't mean to be unfriendly with this post, just posting my view on it, once for all. I actually logged into to post about a very positive sign from Brawn that he plans to get rid of DRS, on the long term. Which is already an improvement, even if a tiny beam of light at the end of the tunnel, over what other F1 bosses thought about it.

Gaara · PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:42 pm

Honda have parted ways with their engine consultant

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... lles-simon

Talladega · PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:54 pm

iks wrote:

coldtyre wrote:

thestig88 wrote:

I personally think that pre-season testing should be done on tracks that they don't race on, we often used to get grids at Barcelona of team by team as they all knew the perfect setup for their cars, leading to a very dull race.

Alternatively, I would suggest to keep Barcelona as a test track, and remove it the heck out of the calendar.

You know, Barcelona has test track written all over it, especially before they butchered the last sector. I'm kinda amazed it's been on the calendar for so long uninterrupted.

Barcelona is one of the most fan-friendly races. Access, views over the track, prices, weather... Ok, it doesn't produce the best racing in the world, but it deserves its spot on the calendar over many other tracks.

gkmotorsport · PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:17 am

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Ferrari will bring it to Mercedes this year. After today, there are three test days left before Melbourne. If Mercedes were sandbagging, they surely would have stepped up the game now.

Mika Kimi · PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:37 am

Let's hope so, RBR is also looking good today and Williams just did a 1:20.308 on softs.

Now a 1:20.084, just 0.007 seconds slower than RBR.

gkmotorsport · PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:37 pm

Pirelli have re-structured stuff internally, so we won't be seeing Paul Hembery in the pit lane.

I hope that whoever replaces him has at least a similar level of patience...

StefMeister · PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:08 pm

FOM are doing a facebook live video from the paddock with Will Buxton:

https://www.facebook.com/Formula1/video ... 793138905/

Neil · PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:09 pm

Engine change for McLaren after a problem was found.

In other news: Grass is green, water is wet and fire is hot.

RtN · PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:09 pm

Quote:

12:02 BEN ANDERSON: Engine change for McLaren-Honda. Problem discovered during this morning's running.

http://www.autosport.com/live/commentar ... st-day-one

micha · PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:16 pm

gkmotorsport wrote:

If Mercedes were sandbagging, they surely would have stepped up the game now.

Why? There is no bonus for setting the fastest times in testing. And with simulations these days they probably know their true pace

It would be great if Ferrari and RBR can actually challenge them for a change.

gkmotorsport · PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:23 pm

micha wrote:

gkmotorsport wrote:

If Mercedes were sandbagging, they surely would have stepped up the game now.

Why? There is no bonus for setting the fastest times in testing. And with simulations these days they probably know their true pace

It would be great if Ferrari and RBR can actually challenge them for a change.

Because, with only 8 days of testing in total, they will need to validate their aero package and setups etc in real conditions at some point.

There is no bonus for setting the fastest time, but there certainly is value to running flat out!

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:25 pm

another Honda engine failure :lol:

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