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who cares about the shark fins? We will have halo next year, which will ruin the look of the cars no matter how the rest looks

Modern F1 cars are not going to look good no matter what. Speaking for myself, good looks is not the reason I watch F1. F1 cars haven't been lookers since the high noses came about in the 90's.

It's funny how y'all complain about modern aesthetics, but didn't even notice that the Goodwood Revival was on the other week.

I am watching F1 since 1986, but I am watching less and less. I used to schedule our weekends in such a way that I could watch all the races live. Each year I do that less and less. I think I have seen 6 races live on tv so far. That is something I would have never imagined. The other races I have taped and watched afterwards, and even then I skipped big parts.

F1 these days looks so easy to drive, hardly any mistakes, drivers can make mistakes on the tarmac run off areas, we don't see exploding engines, we hardly see any spectacular crashes anymore (except a few occasions), and the cars are ugly!

Motorsport used to be dangerous, a lot more dangerous compared to cycling and football, but these days it is the other way round.

At a certain point you need to accept the level of safety and keep it that way. Because what will be next? Max speeds of 200 kph? No racing in the rain? No more Monaco Grand Prix?

last time F1 cars looked good was in 2004 I guess but I kept watching

I'll still watch F1 if it's live on TV, quite sure if I miss a race it'll be something like Monaco 1996 or Spa 1998

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We had so many years (2000 - 2014) in which you had to pay extra to watch F1 live (and I was able to pay during the 2006-07 seasons, and then somewhere around 2013 -always just QLF+race-), that now, getting full F1 live coverage on basic cable (all practice sessions, plus F2, GP3 and PSC), I try to watch as much as I can, and I haven't missed any qlf session or race, unless I had to work (last year at my old job, I had to work one full weekend each month).

But to be honest, as much as I enjoy it already...I don't know how much will it go on. There are races this year that I've had on TV, but without putting much attention to it. I still love F1, I love the fact that this year, we don't have the one-team dominance we had the last 3 seasons. I think the quality of racing is still acceptable, but things like bland circuits, power plant penalties, lack of proper racing in wet conditions, huge costs that are destroying little teams, this ivy league crap that disallows new entries every year, and the overreaction in safety, are just slowly driving me away from the sport.

The problem with Liberty getting involved in the Halo debate & pushing to block it is that if something was to then happen that the Halo could have prevented, Liberty are going to get torn to shreds in the media for putting commercial considerations above safety.

Not too long ago I saw a compilation of news reports in the aftermath of Imola 1994 & it reminded me of just how much F1 & the FIA were dragged through the mud by the mainstream media. And fine that stuff doesn't matter much to those of us fans who fully understand the dangers & all that, However Liberty, The FIA & the teams have to think about far more than just us.

Though I insist Liberty should buy this fight against FIA I'm also aware that they are in a position nobody wanted to be. HALO's test and approval has put the marketing part as a hostage. So, immediatelly I don't even believe they will back down on HALO but, wait till September/October 2018 and we'll see the aftermath.

When interests in F1 drop a little bit further than now....we'll see sponsors beginning a process of gradual abandonment and when it comes to money, you may argue anything in this World, nowadays you can appeal to Christianism and all religions together, none will bring $$$ back. In business World, things work like this.

But I thought that more people then ever watched F1 in the wake of these events? You just have to endure the shitstorm from entitled f*ckwits and you probably would end up with an even larger viewer base.

so the uglier the car gets, more prone to crashes they must be

bring halo, reinforce the chassis and all stuff, but most drivers must look more to the steering wheel than to the track itself, Maldonado racing school

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Maldonado should just get 24 kids and in 18 years we can have Formula Maldonado or Formulado in short.

then the teams would complain "we ain't spending a shitload of money just to see a bunch of wreckers crashing it"

so just make cheaper cars, change that ultracomplex power unit to a small block V8 that screams power

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Are you serious?

it cannot get uglier than that, right?

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Formula Crash to be more exact...

Amen to that.

I also want to add something as an avid amateur karter, and being lucky enough to afford single-seater sessions on a yearly basis. I feel that I *PAY* to take more risks, on more dangerous tracks, driving with zero aids and no radio contact. You go for a few laps, no radio, and come back to the pits and debrief with an instructor/mechanic.

In comparison, the F1 crowd look like a bunch of asepticised spoiled brats. We've come miles away from what motor racing was even created for. I'm pretty sure that anyone on here who races for fun or on a gentlemanly basis will feel the same.

If you play football, you watch pros doing things that you can only dream doing with the ball. If you go mountain biking, you see the pros riding down nightmarish stuff and putting their bones on the line the same way you do on your sunday ride. Watching F1 after coming back from a kart session, does none of that to me. I watch for the suspense of it, but my heroes, my idols, Men with courage, death-defying champions, people who can judge a racecar without an engineer baby-sitter, these guys are long gone for more than a couple of decades now.

You can vote for the 2001, 2003 or 2012 Malaysian GP & it will be available to watch in full on F1.com & Youtube for 19 days
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2001 please

and then show to Max how his dad handled one of the worst cars in the rain

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I've mocked Palmer throughout 2017 for his performances (rightly so), but at least he's realistic and takes it like a man.

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/207 ... -sign-2018

While I do agree that Palmer isn't good enough, I do feel a 'little' sorry for him in that not only has he had a ton of unreliability but he's also rarely been given equal equipment & has in all but 3-4 races been running a spec or more behind what Hulkenberg has had, Not just in terms of the car but also various power units pieces.

You would have thought that a factory team like Renault with all the very good & experienced people they have there would be able to give both drivers equal equipment more often than not, I mean Force India have managed to & there a smaller team with a smaller budget.

Pretty much guarantee they will manage to have 2 equal cars most of the time next year.

If not, prepare for some Carlos Sainz fireworks in 2018