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I prefer sitting with the fans. My brother in law works for the Yankees and I've spent time in the suites there... I prefer sitting with the people that will high five the shit out of the stranger next to them because that might be the only game they get to attend all year.

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I disagree with the idea that it's because our culture has changed. Clearly that has happened, but to say that the changes in culture, the world over, in the last 20 years has somehow been able to bring down sports (and NASCAR in particular) is to negate the cultural changes that affected us for the three decades between 1972 and 2003, NASCAR's modern era and the time when the good ole boys were brought nationwide. From 1972-2003, just using this as time frame, NASCAR built an empire that filled seats at every track, brought ratings, sponsors, money and power.

The cars changed, the drivers changed, the teams changed, new tracks were built, some were lost, the public at large changed, but through all of that was a consistency in the fundamental series itself that we have not had in the last decade.

If you don't get away from the basics, you don't have to go back to them. NASCAR has failed utterly in this regard and it has changed so drastically from what it was that I see no way for them to go back, only to blunder along the current path in the hopes they strike upon something that will stick.

I'm not even going to say it's the racing, because a lot of those races back in the day were long, boring, drawn out affairs. But every now and then you got a classic. NASCAR is trying to have a classic every week, and that makes it artificial which means that none of the races are or ever will be classics. If it happens every week than it's nothing special.

What I love about the cars from the past is that they were hard to drive - you could see them moving around, spinning out. Drivers struggling to keep these machines under control. You rarely see this now - only on road courses and Eldora basically.

Bad news: The WSJ article on NASCAR's downfall is giving NASCAR the most mainstream attention its had in a while.
Good news: At least this example of "NASCAR getting mainstream attention" doesn't involve a dozen fans getting cut open by flying engine parts. Yay?

sooo you wanna make more of the races boring so that when we have an exciting finish its more "special?" i'm trolling

but seriously, the culture change isnt the sole factor - merely a contributing one; thought a factor nonetheless. tv viewers today dont regularly consume content 4hrs long anymore. most people wont even sit through a 2hr movie; and to pretend that our bite-sized youtube, vine, instagram culture doesnt have an effect on sports viewership is ignoring the facts

there are ways to make the on-track racing more interesting without making it artificial; unfortunately, bad management hasnt figured that out

Shit...just found out about Jayski....it was perfectly fine a few days ago..

Here I am chilling out in Florida and I look up at the TV and see a local ad for some hearing center and I swear to god a slightly chubby Bill Webber was the pitch man.

Well I believe he does live in Florida and maybe the magician market isn't as good as it once was.

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this would be so dope

http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/circuit-o ... 1792745116

Ugh, monumentally boring track.

Too wide, too much tarmac, too much runoff, no character.

COTA sucks. Big dumb hill leading to turn 1 and then the most ridiculously overdone sets of switchback esses ever created.

so your saying you'd rather stick with your lame-ass cookie cutter tracks than race at a world class road course? girl you trippin, lol

It's the roadcourse equivalent.

I've always wanted to say this....For Shizzle Tilkedrome.

The track may be boring but it'd be quite a show with these cars, like most road courses and stock cars. Certainly better than any 1.5 mile race. Quit yo bitchin.

Well there are better road courses to go to. Like Elkhart Lake, Road Atlanta.

Yeah, it's worth racing in the sense that it's different, but it's still an uninspired choice of RC. As Gaara alluded to, there are plenty of better options all around the country. I'm sure COTA is a top notch facility but the track is just boooooorrrring.

I like COTA but it's a track designed for single seaters, slow lumbering stock cars would have a hell of a trouble dealing with it

No doubt there's a shorter layout they could use, but still, it wouldn't be great

Also Texas Motor Speedway has a "no race at COTA" clause in their indycar contract, no way they're gonna let NASCAR go their either.

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Also, a shorter track...cautions would be looong


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