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I did wonder at the time "why all the shots of the Marussia Garage?", with no other indication of what happened, it soon became apparent :-(

Full and Speedy Recover Jules

Just finished watching the race and I'm stunned about how a situation like this has magnified.

I love the sport, but not at times like this, when you realise these guys are risking their lives just for your entertainment.

FIA, never again send tractors onto the track during racing conditions. PLEASE. We've said it before and we'll keep saying it, we don't mind a few more safety car interruptions, a bit less time for post race analysis etc, even if our favourite driver loses out as a result, as long as the track conditions become safer for everyone.
This is a terrible situation as it is, but Jules was also close to wiping out 3 or so marshals on top of everything else.

It's been said enough already, but lessons must be learnt from today.

Just the worst kind of time to be a F1 fan.

#keepfightingjules

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Because you said Booth might have to leave because of this. Why should he if he couldn't prevent it?

Sky Sports News also confirming this.

They're saying Maldanado and Massa are at the Hospital too...

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You've misunderstood my point Shaddix.

I'm drawing parallels between Maria's and Jules' incidents. I won't state the obvious why. That's nothing to do with individual or team culpability. More so it will have a massive drain on someone's steely resolve and emotions, especially someone who has tried so hard these past 5 seasons.

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Yeah, seems like I misinterpreted, my fault. I have to agree with you on that.

I agree about everything else but I'm sure racing drivers would race even if there wasn't any spectators or TV-viewers to be entertained.

Latest news about Bianchi not being on life support are encouraging. Whatever the damage on the head, at least he was operated quickly thus minimizing the risk of brain damage. At the case of Schumi, the problem was he didn't go to surgery soon enough even though he had on-going hemorrhage. Let's hope Bianchi recovers like Häkkinen did.

This being the FIA, now that the horse has bolted, will over react. I see Indy style safety cars for any car that has stopped on track regardless. Are those standing starts after the safety car still going to happen? I forgot, tuned out to that bull shit rule. Cause if they are, we will have about 5 of them in a race going forward I feel.

Cue the FIA putting tarmac on the outside of all corners in Suzuka? Hope not.

Well they've needed to for a while. They've been backing off on SC periods, for whatever reason.

Think of the Marussia on fire just before the Nurburgring Chicane-no SC until it started rolling down the track (probably happened because the marshals didn't have the time or ability to communicate well with each other due to the pressure and noise of cars running by)

Think of Mark Webber's car in Malaysia on fire just past the corner after the fastest straight on the track-No SC until the crazy fire truck took it upon itself to take to the track.

Think of the oft-discussed Hockenheim incident with the Sauber spun at the final corner.

Someone, at some point, has had a word with Charlie to keep the sport "pure" and back off on the SC's, and it needs to stop.
(as opposed, of course, to wet starts where its kept out too long, but that's another story for another day)

The irony being, of course, that if the SC did come out for these situations immediately, the marshals have less pressure on them to clean up incidents, can hear each other more clearly when the cars are the other side of the track and are free to clear up the incident more efficiently.
Yes, the FIA then decides to Dick around for 3 laps getting the backmarkers sorted, but that's by the by.

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Would that have even mattered in the pouring rain?

Agree with the whole post, emphasis on this part. Same conditions, same corner as in 1994 where a track worker got crippled, I couldn't believe my eyes when they sent the tractor, and people on track without SC.

I think it's perfectly fine to send people on track under double-waved yellows when it's dry, but under worsening conditions where you can aquaplane even after slowing down, it's irresponsible really. Just throw in a SC, let cars pile up as they wish, and go collect damage later when everyone is lined up under SC.

Well, if the FIA will use the safety car more often now, good, about time. In this case, it should have been out after Sutil's crash, especially considering the history of that corner. Also, see Hockenheim about unnessecary risks for the marshalls.

Let's not overthink the incident and over-react. SC's aren't the only and always the answer. What is needed is careful consideration and analysis of what happened today then take appropriate action. It was an isolated incident, but a stark reminder that the worst is always a possibility.

Just stating "we need more SC periods" doesn't solve anything as you're not allowing for understanding of an incident.

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Yeah, race control has been bafflingly inconsistent of late with their safety car decisions

talkin about a big cerebral hematoma on italian tv

JCB needed on track=safety car

I'd like that to become a blanket rule.

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I don't disagree to that Paul but there are times when JCBs are well out of harms way (and out of the way of a potential freak occurrence).

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The safety car don`t save from tractors..

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Obviously, but F1 has been pushing this too far recently in the quest for un-broken up races and today it bit them.
Also, any time one appears to gather up a track (or marshals are on track like Hockenheim) it's an intensely worrying time for the viewer, at least IMO, and that's not something I view as part of the entertainment I tuned in for.

I watch to see cars and drivers combat each other on track, watching Marshals being put in harms way just so the racing can continue unimpeded isn't part of the entertainment for me.

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