TBK-Light.com

Actually, you're right, the amber light could be a 'stop!' signal, which would be silly because there's no way the driver could see it in time.

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Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

Yep, don't see how you can be expected to react to a red after you've been given the signal to go. Try that on the start and see how many drivers don't gun it.

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Kai is ok, i watched F1 on RTL previous years, but i hate RTL because they have commercials almost 10min. And dont like Heikko Wasser he talks about everything than F1, who has wich girlfriend,where they have been on holidays..... football, who gives a shit. Just do your job and comment whats going on the track!

While Christian Danner is excelent

FOM Cameraman (Paul Allen) has broken shoulder and cracked ribs.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/108641

Come on Lewis, stop being a prat. The problem is with your car, not with the tyres.

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Marco Simoncelli ¦ 1987-2011
Jules Bianchi ¦ 1989-2015
Justin Wilson ¦ 1978-2015

Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

5,000 Euro fine for Force India for the unsafe release.

not sure if it is just my opinion, but, i really enjoyed this afternoons race bar that disturbing wheel incident. if it was for me, id have the german gp at the nurburgring every year.

Hearing 30,000 euro fine for Red Bull

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Massa's retirement driver error

He has nothing to worry. When he gets 1 good result he will get a new contract. That seems to be the only requirement for the second Ferrari seat nowadays.

Just put Hulkenberg in already. Massa has improved his pace this year but also upped the amount of driving errors

I had to watch F1 for the first time on RTL. They planned a commercial break, but then Bianchi stopped the car. You would think: a SC period is ideal for a commercial break. But no, they showed the whole Safety Car, and decide for a commercial break just after the restart....

I had the exact same thing. First time German RTL and I was really surprised about that stupid timing, still gets me a bit pissed when I think about it.

And this is the exact reason why I ordered SKY Germany a few years ago.I didnt wathed F1 anymore beause of those Idiots Heiko Wasser and Kai Ebel.....They talk about the same shit every fucking race, so I decided to pay a few Euros to watch it with decent Comments, too bad Jacque Schulz isnt there anymore

But still 1000 Times better then RTL Germany!!

That sounds about the same what MTV3 did when they had two broadcasts: digital one (no ads) and analog one (ads). They always showed even the long SCs in entirety such as the safety car following Ralf Schumacher's crash at Indy.

Not one to read the gossip pages, but it seems Lewis has broken up with her. Again.

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/1 ... In-My-Life

I loved RTL Germany (including Kai Ebel, and the commercials, and the Krombacher ad that meant "yay F1 is back") because they were the only channel I could recieve to show F1 for free in the times of analog satellite TV.

I enjoyed the race but it flattered to deceive. Everytime something good started cooking, it fell flat. Not only Grosjean and that free-wheeling Marussia induced safety car, but also Kimi's charge at the end. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I think Lotus really screwed up and should have left Kimi out there.

One thing that really irritated the shit out of me was Rosberg and his silly defense of Lewis early on. Perhaps it was revenge for Malaysia, perhaps it was sheer arrogance ("I've got two wins to your zero, fuck you my friend"), perhaps it was the team not giving clear instruction... but whatever it was, it was entirely unnesseccary and cost Lewis / Mercedes around 8 seconds to Vettel in those few laps after the pit stop. Not clever. Thankfully for Lewis, whereas the SC hurt Grosjean it worked in his favour and it meant everyone around him was on the same 3-stop strategy.

I'm puzzled by Force India's post race penalty for an unsafe release. What is that about? When did it change from an instant drive-through to a post race investigation. What was the value to F1, the GPDA (who are all about "safety", yeah...) and the teams when have now been set the precedent that releasing a car into the path of another is not met with an almost certain race ending penalty but instead a measly fine?

Oh and someone needs to give Jenson a real good shaking. I've been a big Jenson fan since 1998 when he first emerged in Formula Ford. But this year his constant moaning has been a real turn off. Nothing in 2013 is Jenson's fault. When he and Rubens went through their terrible Honda years of 2007 and 2008 there was barely a negative muttering coming from either of them. But in 2013 Jenson cannot and will not accept any responsibility for his own actions on track. If it is not his team mate, then it is someone else. Yesterday Giedo van de Garde, who drove a very good race, was the subject of Jenson's wrath after the race. Jenson claimed it was Giedo who cost him a 5th place finish. Once, lapping cars was an art. It made some drivers famous (and some infamous). Given the speed differential between Jenson and Lewis at the end, Jenson wouldn't have held onto 5th with or without Giedo. Who's fault would it have been had Giedo not been there? Not Jenson's that is for sure.

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I THINK the reason they penalised the team and not a drive through is because di Resta and the STR (Ricciardo?) noticed the error and kept their distance. You can see Paul didn't get near the STR, and both drivers were very sensible and missed the accident which FI almost caused. So maybe (just speculation) they felt it would be harsh to penalise di Resta because he avoided the incident. But I do agree with your point, if it's a drive through then it's a drive through. The other option is maybe they did technically release the car at the correct time (there are marks on the wall which cars in the pit lane must not be ahead of when you're releasing your car) and for whatever reason the cars synced up anyway. Again, just pure speculation on my part.

Also, I know Webber got shafted by the team and Red Bull rightly got a big penalty, but they also avoided a drive through. That was an unsafe release, and just because he lost a lap (which he was later given back), doesn't mean that penalty shouldn't apply again.



Totally agree. I didn't see the Caterham incident so can't comment on that specifically, but Jenson needs to man up. He seems to complain when Perez passes him. Well...stop being too fucking slow then Jenson. Get a move on.

Something which has been forgotten about already is the tyres. It turns out when Pirelli make the changes they want to make, and the teams are forced to obey the recommendations that Pirelli set out, the tyres work just fine. Who knew eh? We've been arguing about this for months, then Silverstone happens, Bernie finally gets involved in a meeting and shit gets done. That's what should've been done months ago, and back in the 90s Bernie would've made it happen. Mercedes bitching about the tyres is an absolute disgrace. They didn't want the tyres changed, despite it being purely a safety issue, because they felt they'd suffer. And now we have safe tyres, they're moaning about it. Bernie and Todt need to get down to the Mercedes HQ and tell them to STFU or GTFO.

Also on tyres, there were 2 distinct groups of teams. Mercedes uses the tyres too much, so in theory they should've liked these harder tyres. Yet the car is bollocks with them. Lotus should've hated these tyres, because the car uses fast wearing tyres very well, yet the car was excellent. So basically what we're seeing is that teams like Mercedes and Force India haven't adapted very well to the new tyres, whilst Red Bull and Lotus have. The tyres are just fine, but we're seeing how good teams are at adapting to different situations. It isn't a surprise Force India struggled with something like that.

Regarding the 'unsafe releases'.

It really baffles me how totally different penalties are given.

I remember Alonso lost a wheel (but can't remember where, I thought it was two years ago) and had a drive through because of it. I found that rather harsh.
Mark Webber lost a wheel at the worst possible place, and yet the team only got a fine?

(ok, you can argue that MW didn't know the loose wheel, and Alonso did, but still...)

Then the unsafe releases itself, we have seen drive throughs, we have seen fines (even though the pitstops were not even halfway through the race), and we have seen at Silverstone a rather unsafe release by the Ferrari team (Alonso) and there there was nothing at all.

I think the stewarts should not look into the result of the unsafe release, but just a drive through for every unsafe release that happens. It's like in football, when you tackle two feet forward, then that results (it should at least) in a red card, even if you didn't touch the oponent.

It really annoys me, because in my opinion this is one of the more 'easy' penalties they can give (drive through), and yet they make a mess about it. And if there is an unsafe release that is very, very unsafe, then they can add even a Stop/Go of 10 seconds.

But the current penalties are really silly.