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were you born before or after SPA 1991? (MSC F1 Debut)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:07 am 
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so, who are the net winners here?

- not Hamilton I feel. He will realize he has made a terrible decision.
- not Schumacher, obviously.
- Perez, for not only managing to go to a top team as a promising talent, but also for managing to escape a potential supporting role to Alonso at Ferrari
- Eddie Jordan... well what can I say? Sky is apparently the natural home of F1 these days, yet it is the much disgraced BBC's man that managed to see this move coming. Well done Eddie.
- Alonso (I don't see Hamilton challenging him in 2013). Vettel (same reason)


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:08 am 
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YES, Hamilton out of f#cking Mclaren!!!

Sure Hamilton won't be doing better at Mercedes, but have annoyed how Mclaren fucked up opportunity after opportunity the last phew years.


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It's never sat well with me how badly Whitmarsh treats the team, so it doesn't surprise me. Good for Lewis.


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So happy for Checo, he's a nice guy :thumbsup:

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so happy for Jo Ramirez :)


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Even though I don't find Button or Perez top class drivers, this might be good for Mclaren. Since they are both drivers with a smooth driving style, so they could develop the car into one direction.


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And it means Whitmarsh will no longer have to conceal his disdain of Lewis.

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phil1993 wrote:
And it means Whitmarsh will no longer have to conceal his disdain of Lewis.


Hopefully it works the other way too, and Lewis can talk about how much of a lying smarmy dirt bag Whitmarsh is.


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28/09/2012
Japanese Grand Prix Preview

5th-7th of October
Suzuka – 53 laps – 5.807 km

Madrid, Friday the 28th of September 2012

The Formula 1 World Championship arrives at the traditional Suzuka circuit, which next week will be holding the fifteenth Grand Prix of the season and the second of this five race swing on Asian soil. There’s only a quarter of the Championship to go and the teams are making one last effort to finish the season in the best possible way. HRT Formula 1 Team arrives on the back of a positive weekend in Singapore, where an important aerodynamic upgrade which meant another step forward for the team was introduced to the F112, enabling Pedro de la Rosa and Narain Karthikeyan to fight face-to-face with their rivals. In Japan the Spanish outfit will continue working to evaluate and optimize the performance of these upgrades at a high downforce circuit.

Suzuka is a very challenging and fast circuit. It has a lot of quick, blind corners that link together and drivers barely touch the brake. It’s a unique track because it is shaped in the form of an eight, meaning that it’s the only circuit in the Championship to go anti-clockwise and clockwise on the same lap.

Pirelli has selected its soft and hard tyres for this Grand Prix.

Pedro de la Rosa: "Suzuka is a beautiful and spectacular circuit; I would say it’s my favourite track. It’s very quick, you hardly touch the brake, and we’ll be able to make a better evaluation of the difference between the new floor and the old one. It has inclinations, quick, flowing corners and it’s a very long lap. It’s a circuit for aerodynamics and horsepower where the best cars stand out. I’ve got great memories of it because my first victories in Formula 3 and Formula 3000 came there and it’s one of the tracks which has brought me most luck in my career because by winning there the doors to Formula 1 opened. I hope to also have a good performance next weekend”.

Narain Karthikeyan: "I’m really looking forward to Japan after not being able to finish in Singapore. Suzuka is a very fluid and challenging track. From a physical point of view it’s also tough as it’s very quick. It’s a circuit that I love and one I have fond memories of. I think we’ll take a step forward with the car with regards to Singapore and we’ll be able to better evaluate how the new floor works. We’ve been pretty fast in the last few races but we’ve been missing a bit of luck. But we have to continue working to maintain this positive momentum through to the end of the season”.

Luis Pérez-Sala, Team Principal: "Suzuka is a circuit with a lot of tradition which I raced at during my years as a Formula 1 driver. It’s quite a technical track that’s very challenging both mechanically and for the driver and it’s also a very attractive circuit because it combines quick corners with quick straights. We’ll be able to further test and evaluate the updates we took to Singapore because we will have more data. We’re confident that we’ll be able to continue with our momentum and it’s another race to continue progressing”.

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I'm so glad I can hear what Karthikeyan "says".

Anyway, this means Massa stays.

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I'd rather see Perez at Ferrari, but good on him.


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Can someone tell me how Hamilton will even challenge for a WDC in the next seasons with Mercedes?

Unless they sign Adrian Newey.


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acopip wrote:
Going by rumours, the grid will look like this:

Red Bull: Vettel, Webber
McLaren: Perez, Button
Ferrari: Alonso, Kovalainen
Lotus: Raikkonen, Grosjean
Mercedes: Hamilton, Rosberg
Sauber: Alguersuari, Massa
Williams: Maldonado, Bottas
Force India: Di Resta, Hülkenberg
Toro Rosso: Vergne, Ricciardo
Caterham: Pic, Valsecchi/Razia
Marussia: Glock, Chilton
HRT: De La Rosa, Karthikeyan


So, who said it first? ;)

For me it's bad news. Hamilton at Mercedes? Poor guy, I hope he will be able to fight for wins... Sergio may have his first year to be able to fight for the championship!

Montezemolo is now a bit fucked with his "Perez not mature enough" thing, isn't he? :p
Don't see Perez going to Ferrari in the next years


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Fabs wrote:
Can someone tell me how Hamilton will even challenge for a WDC in the next seasons with Mercedes?

Unless they sign Adrian Newey.


Maybe they have lured him with the prospect of 2014, when the engines will play a big part. Being with a factory team could help in that case.


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Alguersuari has been very vocal and positive about having a seat next year. Has he found cash for that Sauber seat?


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Surprised that this is actually happening, sad to see Hamilton leaving.
But I liked Perez since his first year in F1 so I'll have no problem rooting for him.


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I can remember his wins at Monza in British F3 where he stormed through the field to win the races, knew he was someone to watch!

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I saw this coming from Perez, it made just too much sense and he told Ferrari to hurry up with their decision before.

Scotty wrote:
acopip wrote:
acopip wrote:
Going by rumours, the grid will look like this:

Red Bull: Vettel, Webber
McLaren: Perez, Button
Ferrari: Alonso, Kovalainen
Lotus: Raikkonen, Grosjean
Mercedes: Hamilton, Rosberg


So, who said it first? ;)


Just about everybody about 2 weeks ago.


I said it on september 9th ;)

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If Vettel moves for 2014, Red Bull seem a bit snookered.


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what bugs me is that no-one had the decency to let Schumacher announce his plans before this.
If you like him or not he's still pretty much a living legend in F1 and it would show some respect if he could announce his retirement instead of "being forced" into retirement.


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