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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:10 pm 
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Here's the diagram of Lamy's crash:

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There was also Alboreto's wheel flying off in the Imola pitlane.


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Here's the diagram of Lamy's crash:

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There was also Alboreto's wheel flying off in the Imola pitlane.


so it wasn't like Driven at all, it was more like that Ericsson crash at Monza when his DRS didn't shutdown, but raised to 11

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No footage of the Lamy crash? I can't remember ever seeing any.


I have seen a graphic which breaks down how the crash occurred, where he span, it was just freakish. No other cars involved.

If you look into 1994 it's so scary:

Alesi is badly hurt at Mugello in the pre season, misses several races
JJ Lehto is hurt in pre-season, misses several races
Brundle's head is literally ran over at Interlagos, somehow escapes unhurt
Barichello is lucky not to be more seriously hurt in his Imola crash
Ratzenberger dies
Senna dies
Wendlinger nearly dies at Monaco, gets put into a coma, never really recovers from it
Lamy is seriously injured at Silverstone and misses 12 months
Montermini breaks his ankle at Barcelona

And all that was 5 races into the season. Imagine if in 2021 we got to this point of the season and nearly half the grid had been injured and needed replacements.



Saying JJ Lehto was hurt is quite an understatement. He was few millimeters away from death with a bone chip from his vertebrae pushing his spinal cord. He had to learn walking again even. Fatass Briatore threatened to fire him so he rushed to get back, which happened too soon and eventually ruined his career.

I don't think by today's standard they'd allow JJ to take part in Imola weekend with that injury. Then again many things was seriously wrong at Imola by today's standards.

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Aston Martin withdraw appeal against Vettel's Hungarian GP disqualification


https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-aston-martin-withdraw-appeal-against-vettels-hungarian-gp.4wggkdRC5KmwVsVQ8DJHXG.html

Aston Martin....we absolutely have fuel in the car. There is 1.74 liters by our calculation still left in the car, the stewards didn't extract it. Trust us.

The findings...there was only 0.3 liters in the car. A faulty fuel pump dumped the rest during the race. Sucks, but there was only 0.3 liters in the car. It doesn't matter what happened to reach that number. Only that that was what was left in the tank.

Oh...also Racing Point........We 100% designed those break ducts ourselves. They are absolutely our design........yeah....take what they say with absolute certainty with a grain of salt.


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This forum and others would go into melt down


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What happens when someone finishes without their front wing? Or half of the car missing like Verstappen?


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Hamilton won a race with a shredded tire last year and had no problems (but that's more FIA lenience towards Mercedes)

drivers generally drive over the marbles after the races to make sure cars get some weight to avoid any problems with stewards

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Probably mentioned already, and as usual, point and laugh at me if I'm wrong, but 300ml, as a sample used for analysis, is massive. They can analyze the temperature, chemical make up and do further analysis on 30ml of fuel, even probably 3ml of fuel, why the hell do they need 300ml? Seems strange to me.


It doesn't make much sense. It's not like they do it to police fuel consumption, since the cars are limited by the fuel flow.

300 mL it's a huge amount of fuel to get any data they need. That's another rule it needs to be looked into.

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If I ever won the world championship in the final race (which, lets be honest, is moderately unlikely), I'd crawl into the pits too scared to be underweight.


"Moderately" :lol:


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that remembers me of another instances of cars that crashed after the race like the sole Vittorio Brambilla victory

and that one where Vettel finished 4th but crashed with Stroll afterwards. Funny that both are sharing the same box today

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Scotty wrote:
This, and many more, coming up on today's episode of "shit that will probably never happen but let's argue about it anyway".

This is the media (social or otherwise) in general. Arguing about fringe events, individual cases, minority extreme opinions, obscure exceptions to solid laws/rules.

It's fun, as long as we keep some perspective on the overall picture (we don't).


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that remembers me of another instances of cars that crashed after the race like the sole Vittorio Brambilla victory

and that one where Vettel finished 4th but crashed with Stroll afterwards. Funny that both are sharing the same box today


that crash is one of the oddest I have ever seen in racing

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Probably mentioned already, and as usual, point and laugh at me if I'm wrong, but 300ml, as a sample used for analysis, is massive. They can analyze the temperature, chemical make up and do further analysis on 30ml of fuel, even probably 3ml of fuel, why the hell do they need 300ml? Seems strange to me.


It doesn't make much sense. It's not like they do it to police fuel consumption, since the cars are limited by the fuel flow.

300 mL it's a huge amount of fuel to get any data they need. That's another rule it needs to be looked into.



It's the FIA. The came up with nice little round number of 1 litre. That's a fine number, yes. Let's use that for maximum fuel flow too 100 ltr/h...yes...that's the shit.

Coming up next is 1.0 litre engine capacity and 100kW electric engine on each wheel.

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Coldtyre wrote:
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This, and many more, coming up on today's episode of "shit that will probably never happen but let's argue about it anyway".

This is the media (social or otherwise) in general. Arguing about fringe events, individual cases, minority extreme opinions, obscure exceptions to solid laws/rules.

It's fun, as long as we keep some perspective on the overall picture (we don't).


Well, before the last race we'd probably be lol'ing about Indy 05 and how it was impossible for a race to have fewer starters than 2005 Indy.
Then F1 found a way.
Lewis might never win a race again, or he might win 10 championships, I still think the image of him on the grid in Hungary all alone will be the defining image of his career (Just as Schumacher's is almost always him on 2 wheels at Adelaide 94 and Montoya never quite managed to do anything quite as epic for his career than overtaking Micheal at the Brazil 01 restart, for example)

Formula 1 finds a way to make the statistically unlikely thing happen. Then new rules suddenly have to be created to close the grey area that no-one had considered or thought was such a minor chance of happening that they didn't bother writing hard and fast rules for.

Wondering what the next impossible thing to actually happen will be keeps us watching as race fans ;)

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Hamilton won a race with a shredded tire last year and had no problems (but that's more FIA lenience towards Mercedes)


Well, tbf most of the tyre was still attached, just delaminated like that Hungary race in 2008 where the tyre punctured but became like a whip around the front wheel rather than disintergrating, 2013 Silverstone style (damn, now you think about it, Hamilton has had a LOT of punctures. Also the reason he crashed near the end of Spain 2009 too, amid probably many others)

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Also the reason he crashed near the end of Spain 2009 too, amid probably many others)


Spain 2010, it was a rim failure too, cost him the title ;)

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Didn't he had a big tyre-related off in Nürburgring 2007?

Or was a badly attatched wheel? Can't remember well. It was at the fast S going up the hill.


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oh that was a great crash, he was pratically darted into the barrier. It could've been way more serious

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Meanwhile, São Paulo state government allowed the race at Interlagos to be held with 100% of the seats available to fans, believe it or not.


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I think it should be easy to host a ton of people this days. I'd just requiere them to have a negative PCR test for SARS 2 within a couple of days before the event.


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The only condition that will be in place is people must have taken at least 1 dose of vaccine.


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Not the best condition. There's a reason why you need more doses in order to be considered protected.


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