2020 Formula One Random Discussion Thread

EAS · PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 9:59 pm

Well, some months ago I remember reading an article about mental health in F1 and how the staff struggles with that for several reasons, being one of them the huge amount of travel these people have to do.

Now imagine all those people leaving home and traveling from country to country without getting back home for at least 5 months. I wouldn't like to be an F1 related staff right now.

Philthy82 · PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 2:03 am

Considering how much of a logistical nightmare Europe, Asia and most of the world is going to be for the foreseeable future, how about an F1 US series? America is pretty much in denial on the need for quarantine, there should be plenty of grade 1 circuits available and no annoying closed borders to deal with, and this is a golden opportunity to finally smash the US market.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 2:29 am

I've been wanting a F1 race at Road America for a long time, the hugest DRS zones in F1 history

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 2:31 am

IIRC only COTA is Grade 1 in the entire united states

I think Indy's road course would be again since they changed it, but they never bothered re-submitting it (IE Paying for the privileged of the FIA assessing it, no doubt)

The FIA would butcher Road America before they let F1 cars near it, sadly.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 4:09 am

fuck the grade system, cars have halo now, they are safe enough, just don't t-bone

EAS · PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 5:06 am

Well, The Kink at Road America seems to be quite a dangerous place for F1 standards.

trout · PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:24 am

Scotty wrote:

codename_47 wrote:

IIRC only COTA is Grade 1 in the entire united states

Someone put out a video on this recently, I forgot his name, but circuits don't need to be grade 1 to be granted F1 status.

There's like, a million exceptions to the rules, one major one is that if races have been run on the circuit for a long period of time it doesn't matter.

New circuits, when they're built, have ridiculously high demands, they have to adhere to the rules. But I'm pretty sure Zandvoort wasn't grade 1. They've made a few updates that definitely haven't given it grade 1 status, let's be honest it's been made more dangerous.

One of the rules is that the start finish straight needs to be a certain width, but half the circuits on the calendar aren't even that wide.

this guy?

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 3:23 pm

Scotty wrote:

If one of F1's conditions to run on that circuit is they can't run the kink and they run the motorbike chicane, I wouldn't mind it.

They lose one corner, which yeah, is a kick ass corner, but let's be honest, in most conditions it's an easy flat corner that drivers wouldn't even flinch about unless they were side-by-side with someone.

aren't F1 cars with proper downforce to tackle the kink flatout?

but anyway, judging by dirt air generated on the caroussel, quite sure they would use the chicane to bring cars together

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:23 pm

LucasWheldon wrote:

Scotty wrote:

If one of F1's conditions to run on that circuit is they can't run the kink and they run the motorbike chicane, I wouldn't mind it.

They lose one corner, which yeah, is a kick ass corner, but let's be honest, in most conditions it's an easy flat corner that drivers wouldn't even flinch about unless they were side-by-side with someone.

aren't F1 cars with proper downforce to tackle the kink flatout?

but anyway, judging by dirt air generated on the caroussel, quite sure they would use the chicane to bring cars together

I think it's a tamberello situation, in that it wouldn't be a corner that the drivers would have to worry about at all, until something went wrong and you found yourself in the wall at nearly 200MPH with little runoff

Katherine Legge was just so lucky her car broke up and started tumbling to dissipate all that energy, her accident could've been so horrific.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:42 pm

I guess we can say the same at the final corner at Interlagos, an easy bend that created gruesome crashes (and even fatal in other series) like the ones in 2003

Coldtyre · PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 6:35 am

The Legge impact was taken fully when she first hit it. All the tumbling was only due to the car subsequently taking off instead of sliding along the wall, but by that point the main impact was done. Tumbling made it worse, not better.

Wall proximity is not an issue for modern F1s with that shallow of an angle, but the risk is to have a car shoot back on track in a blind section with no room to avoid it. I think after last year's tragedy they will be looking more closely to bottleneck sections of racetracks, which disqualifies similar turns.

Omega · PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 1:15 pm

Like I said before, in a couple of years only AVUS will be good enough for safety standards.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 2:51 pm

but I like to see some F1 at Mid-Ohio, Laguna Seca and Road Atlanta even though it'll be very boring

Gaara · PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 5:41 pm

Well Silverstone definitely won't happen now.

RtN · PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 11:52 pm

Nope, they couldn't find a date.

Would be a very short F1 lap - the fountain in particular would be quite interesting.

Fabs · PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 2:03 pm

Gaara wrote:

Well Silverstone definitely won't happen now.

Because of the enforced 14 day quarantaine for foreign arrivals?

I see F1 trying to get an exemption.

EAS · PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 2:43 pm

They already tried and were denied.

The situation might change in the next weeks of course, but the answer right now is no.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 5:01 pm

for long beach they should use the layout from the late 70's, more sloped. I guess they can use that one, a 100 lap endurance for F1

Fabs · PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 10:08 am

Fabs wrote:

Gaara wrote:

Well Silverstone definitely won't happen now.

Because of the enforced 14 day quarantaine for foreign arrivals?

I see F1 trying to get an exemption.

https://twitter.com/noblef1/status/1265 ... 78688?s=21

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 10:42 am

RtN wrote:

Nope, they couldn't find a date.

Would be a very short F1 lap - the fountain in particular would be quite interesting.

short lap time at LB is no different to Interlagos or the Red Bull Ring

the biggest issue for LB is a pit building

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