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The racing sounds great if you liked the Crapwagon era of the IRL.

The goon they put out to do the press duties sounds like a keeper as well. Kyle makes some remarks that don't sound prissy or sassy or anything other than an honest appraisal of what the racing is going to be like, and the response is basically 'he should shut up'.

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Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

I watched a couple minutes of the videos posted on Reddit yesterday from drafting practice. That is the same exact thought I had. It's like an even more stupid version of the stupid pack racing from the IRL days.

Yeah, "they make a lot of money so they should shut up about it" is always a dogshit argument.

I know it's a pipe dream but a mass exodus of the young talent from NASCAR to IndyCar would tickle so good right now.

I can see Larson giving Floyd an ultimatum along those lines if they are off the pace this year.

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Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

Back then I always thought the IRL was trying to copy restrictor plate racing anyway, so these things are circular

You can either try and lure fans with speed records, cool looking machines, new technologies, future green stuff or, according to America, one huge pack where people only watch for the inevitable huge crash that will happen

So NASCAR

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I think Doug Yates said the engine dyno simulations were showing that drivers could run 20 laps flat out at Vegas before they had to start lifting?

At this rate, if the cars got any easier to drive, I'd just tell the team to put cruise control in the damn thing so I wouldn't get tired of keeping my foot on the floor for 3+ hours.


There's maybe one actual pass for position in this 2 minute video. The rest is single file, or pulling up alongside but not quite making the pass.

NASCAR only wants wrecks

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Papis tweeted this in response to the quote of the NASCAR rep
[tweet]https://twitter.com/maxpapis/status/1091329053271957505[/tweet]

source of what Yates said.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/nateryan/status/1091340788703870982[/tweet]

20 laps wide open

Goodness me what has NASCAR done?

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I'm hearing that the Xfinity cars are now fastesr than cup. Whether that is true or not I don't know.

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It's almost as if NASCAR never learned their lesson from Loudon nearly 20 years ago.

Just replace "knee-jerk reaction to a pair of tragic deaths" to "knee-jerk reaction to a shit car" as the reasoning.

this is exactly the kind of racing that allowed jj to win so many cups. watch him have a resurgence this yr

Quite the opposite. JJ was at his best when the cars struggled for grip with lots of power and much less downforce. Just google some of his Busch/Xfinity starts and you'll see how well he does in low power/high grip cars (clue: not good at all).

Exaclty. The thing that helped Jimming the most was figuring out the chase, but these cars were very far from the crap today.

With any luck, they've shot themselves in the foot like Indycar did 23 years ago which helped fuel NASCARs meteoric rise.

Hopefully the money dries up in NASCAR and these young kids decide to go to an up and coming Indycar series.

Indycar will never again come up the way NASCAR came up against it in the 90s. NASCAR's only instituted a crappy package. IRL was a whole breakaway series with half the drivers in CCWS and other half in IRL. Plus, Indy 500 got diluted.

I honestly don't believe the majority of the audience cares that it's full throttle all the way around, do you? 90% of the audience will probably think it's cool when they hear WIDE OPEN THROTTLE WOO. Plus, this package will keep them bunched together like a plate race and lead to more wrecks and controversy, that most people from the broader audience seem to prefer?

Some announcements from NASCAR today:

NASCAR will disqualify race winners with major rules violations. Finally!

They're sticking with group qualifying in 2019 despite it being fucking lame.

Gen 7 car planned for 2021 Daytona 500. New engines for 2022. The new bullshit drafting package is closer to the direction they're planning on going with the Gen 7... Also, Gen 7 will have composite bodies.

In conjunction with the Gen-7 Cup car project, Steve O'Donnell says NASCAR is working towards a common, interchangeable car for what is now K&N-ARCA, Pintys, Mexico and the EURO Series.

Teams in all series will be given the option to have tow straps so if it gets stuck in grass but is undamaged, can be towed to the apron and can re-fire and continue to race.

About damn time they learned what a disqualification was again

still 1 step forward, 30 steps back

Look for Kyle Busch to be the first to get hit with a major violation too...

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The thing I remember about IRL era "pack races" is that some of them actually were... kind of boring. At some tracks, despite how close they ran, no one could really pass each other. Cars often couldn't really motor past the car once they got out of the draft. So you had a line of closely bunched cars that didn't really do anything other than run around a track close together.

In Indycar, there have been some aero formulas that have been "packish" and rely heavily on the draft, but the cars are were powerful enough to pull into the lead or sometimes break away. Examples include the DW12 era races at Indy and other superspeedways, and the CART "Hanford" device era at Michigan and Fontana. That was a little "artificial" to some but certainly it wasn't boring.

From what I remember, pre-restrictor plate Talladega and Daytona was also a bit like this like this: the draft was a major factor, but not enough to completely prevent passing once you got out of it. This was the era where the "slingshot pass" dominated.

If they wanted a more showy aero, in other words, IMHO they should have looked at the above examples for inspiration. Of course the IRL-style bunching up leads to "big ones" and there's always a "MOAR WREX" crowd, and this will satisfy those I guess. Other racing fans are more into battles for the lead / action on the track and other displays of driver skill, and so far this package looks terrible for that.

I will note that one of the few tracks that actually seems to be heavily resisting the NASCR decline, even *rising* of late, is the NASCAR Watkins Glen race. Which is strong evidence to me that some fans care more about other things than WIDE OPEN THROTTLE WOO and MOAR WREX.