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Things will be different in a pack though. Apart from the increased speed in a draft, the greater ease of getting around the track will now lead to a mix of the kind of racing we see at the superspeedways and the intermediates. Just a wild guess at this point, based off what we saw at the All-Star race primarily.

So...tight pack while close-to-impossible to overtake.

Where have I've seen this before...

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If there's no fall off at Atlanta, there is no hope.

What has NASCAR done

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Are they leaving the Xfinity package unchanged? Because that would suddenly make them the more compelling (and probably faster) series of the two, given their low-ish downforce these days.

All the series are being pegged back with restrictor, sorry tapered spacers, the irony is the most powerful stock car in America next year may turn out to be the local Saturday night short track Late Model.

And that's just sad.

Dirt Super Late Models already have more horsepower (over 850HP) than Cup cars (around 750HP presently), been basically that way since the tapered spacer addition in 2014. Before that they were basically equal

Well, people always wanted stock cars to be more stock so atleast we're getting there in the horsepower department.

At this point why don't they trial an actual stock series? They'll be far cheaper to run, inject some new interest into NASCAR, probably be far more competitive with the messy aero, and not much less powerful than what Cup will be running next year. Make it a new feeder series focussed on developing markets and showcasing minority drivers. You're welcome.

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With the new S/F line being at the exit of turn 2 at Phoenix, I just realized the restarts are going to be even dumber than what we already see there. I just assume the whole field is going to immediately dive down and cut the dogleg as soon as they clear the line. I guess the only saving grace will be that they won't be at full speed for it.

If I understand it correctly, cutting the dogleg wont be an advantage on restarts because the s/f line is right before the kink.

Right, but it could be useful to do on the run toward the new turn 1. Coming to the checkers it won't matter.

Yup that could get interesting couldn't it @

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the "no passing on the left until the start/finish line on restarts" rule still applies doesnt it? that should minimize the chaos

I think you’re misunderstanding though. The new line is at the exit of old turn 2, but BEFORE the dogleg. So by the time they cross the line, there’s a whole desert of an apron still beckoning greedy drivers to cut hard left and make moves before they have to get into turn 1 (old turn 3).

I haven’t been able to find a clear and precise location of the line, just a few vague mentions of it being after turn 2 but before the dogleg. So I guess the closer they’ve put it to the dogleg itself, the less chaos it should cause.

the line is before the dogleg

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But chaos is good. I like chaos.

Oh yeah, they're definitely gonna be diving to that apron.

haha oh that's gonna be a mess.