2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS

StanV · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:06 am

Laurent Mercier gave some valid points in his roundup on Endurance-Info, for those who have knowledge of French

One of those points is that all cars HAVE to leave for China (difficult diplomatic relations etc) tonight, making it incredibly difficult to postpone the race.

deggis · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:18 am

Which means bad planning.

i.e. making postponing possible before hand. And maybe Fuji should do something about the track drainage systems.

StanV · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:37 am

Or maybe scrap going to Shanghai in the first place, as it's a shit track. Same goes for Bahrain.

cookie · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:55 am

Why was this race run on sunday and not on saturday like some other wec races? Especially at Fuji you have to consider rain is always a factor

StanV · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:01 am

Because they wouldn't have been able to get to Shanghai in time.

deggis · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:41 am

cookie wrote:

Why was this race run on sunday and not on saturday like some other wec races? Especially at Fuji you have to consider rain is always a factor

Not sure if that would have helped (assuming that it would have rained on saturday instead), it might have still screwed up the freight schedules or been hard/impossible unless specifically planned for a spare day.

Ian-S · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:54 am

Then if that's the case it begs the question is if China is so fuckin difficult, why go there in the first place?

I think you misunderstand Cookie, he means run the Fuji race 24 hours earlier, not a week later :lol:

I can't see how that would screw up the freight plans for going from Japan to China, if anything it gives the teams an extra 24 hours to get all the stuff packed better, or valuable repair time.

This is just another fine example of why the FIA should never be left to organise things, they have no clue.

deggis · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:42 pm

Ian-S wrote:

I think you misunderstand Cookie, he means run the Fuji race 24 hours earlier, not a week later :lol:

No misunderstanding.

Quote:

I can't see how that would screw up the freight plans for going from Japan to China, if anything it gives the teams an extra 24 hours to get all the stuff packed better, or valuable repair time.

My point was that if the possibility of postponing was not planned before hand at all, then having extra day might not have made any difference.

Quote:

This is just another fine example of why the FIA should never be left to organise things, they have no clue.

For sure any person on a internet forum would do a better job. /sarcasm

StanV · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:55 pm

I misread cookie's post, assuming that the race was run on Saturday (forgive me, with it being in the middle of the night) and also thinking that he questioned why they ran on Saturday.

Then I don't really know why they didn't give themselves extra space. Educated guess: Sunday = more visitors (41k is pretty damn awesome considering it actually rained like a mofo)

Ian-S · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:47 pm

deggis wrote:

Quote:

This is just another fine example of why the FIA should never be left to organise things, they have no clue.

For sure any person on a internet forum would do a better job. /sarcasm

Oh course we would, this is why TBK exists, to solve world problems one idiot at a time, is it not?

Fish88 · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:29 pm

I heard you guys like innovation.

deggis · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:36 pm

If they wanted to underline the awkward shape, good job.

Btw, I love the new bullshit on the press release: http://www.endurance-info.com/en/andy-p ... mp1-class/

Quote:

Q: WHAT WOULD IT MEAN TO NISSAN TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE LM P1 CLASS AND HOW IMPORTANT A STEPPING STONE IS THE ZEOD RC TO ACHIEVE THAT?

Andy Palmer: “The Nissan ZEOD RC is a very important stepping stone and strategically we’d love to compete in the LM P1 class. If the rules constrain us in a way so that we’d just be another Audi or Toyota out there then we won’t come. If we’re allowed to be innovative with new powertrain and chassis technologies and be different then we’re extremely interested. Essentially my request to the team is to ‘be the bad boys’ – both on and off the track. We’re aiming to stretch the boundaries of the rules and the boundaries of physics. If we can do that and its ticks the boxes of ‘innovation and excitement for everyone’, then I don’t see any reason why we wouldn’t be here in 2015. But if we come, we come to win.”

I love that they're already demanding rule changes when they don't even definitely know what will power the ZEOD. I say that is more smokescreen just to hide the fact that G56 gives excellent exposure with minimal risk than LMP1 being the real intention. Actually that is old bullshit because words "potential LMP1 program in future" has been mentioned in pretty much every ACO-brownnosing press release about the ZEOD.

ellis · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:45 pm

"we want to win by using a car that's outside the rules" is what he just said. They're scared if competition.

If you don't want to compete, then fuck off. This is racing, not a parade.

Woodski · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:50 pm

Fish88 wrote:

I heard you guys like innovation.

hnggggg(to the ones on the left and right)

deggis · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:00 pm

This NISSAN EXCITES me (suddenly, nostalgia thread)

Woodski · PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:39 pm

first pictures of the "DP Evo" cars for next year.

Xen · PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:51 am

I love it, it looks like a proper race car! Low, big wing, diffuser, agressive look. One of the last car to run so low I think (let's hope the regulations won't change that). Love it!

hedgey666 · PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:17 pm

Fish88 wrote:

I heard you guys like innovation.

They really love sticking it to sportscar fans don't they?

"Hay guyz! Remember how we used to race cars like these in proper competition? Well fuck you all!"

codename_47 · PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:19 pm

I don't care about all the B.S. about it being supposedly "innovative"

That pic makes it look hella cool to my eyes....

All they have to do is make it hover and we can have a real life "Wipeout 2014"

Fish88 · PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:45 pm

If you want your girlfriend to be interested in motorsport, you just have to show here that picture.

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