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Author:  deggis [ Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:22 pm ]
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http://www.endurance-info.com/version2/ ... 20340.html

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Author:  Fish88 [ Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:11 pm ]
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Except the rear it looks a lot lesser than a Audi than I initially thought.

Author:  ellis [ Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:59 am ]
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Author:  Gaara [ Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:20 am ]
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Could it get any more ridiculous?

Author:  StanV [ Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:54 pm ]
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Love it.

Author:  deggis [ Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:12 pm ]
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Author:  kals [ Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:43 pm ]
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Gaara wrote:
Could it get any more ridiculous?


Don't give them any more incentive please.

Author:  Joe A [ Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:03 pm ]
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Where's the rear wing?

Author:  deggis [ Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:40 pm ]
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What rear wing? :p

Author:  hedgey666 [ Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:19 pm ]
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I never in my life thought I'd see something that made the Donkervoort look good in comparison.

That's the worst thing I've ever seen.

Author:  deggis [ Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:44 pm ]
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I actually like it more than the open cockpit version. At least it looks safer.

Author:  Fish88 [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:05 pm ]
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So the Nissan thing is "different" than the Deltawing?

Author:  deggis [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:21 pm ]
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http://www.deltawingracing.com/2013-images/2014-coupe-test/

Author:  ellis [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:40 pm ]
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Fish88 wrote:
So the Nissan thing is "different" than the Deltawing?


It's the same thing still. It's run by Highcroft and built by RML. Engine is a rebadged Chevy unit, built by RML. It's stickered up and marketed by Nissan.

Same as before but has a roof now. So all the same issues as the old one had, but now has to cope with added complexity of doors, wipers, air con and demisters.

Author:  deggis [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:24 pm ]
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ellis wrote:
Fish88 wrote:
So the Nissan thing is "different" than the Deltawing?


It's the same thing still. It's run by Highcroft and built by RML. Engine is a rebadged Chevy unit, built by RML. It's stickered up and marketed by Nissan.

Wait wut. That makes sense only in past tense. :?

Nissan ZEOD (Le Mans 2014) = RML + Nismo, engine specs wide open apparently

The "original" DW in ALMS right now = Panoz/Elan that took over from Highcroft and obviously has no association with Nissan anymore, engine derives from Mazda-MZR.

Author:  deggis [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:11 pm ]
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Author:  ellis [ Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:53 am ]
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You're right about Highcroft, I forgot they'd discontinued work on the DW. However the rest of it is true if you ignore all the PR crap surrounding it, like the previous one.

RML developed, again. Nismo branding. Open engine specs? Of course it has open engine specs - it doesn't comply to any regulations. It's completely open in all specs. As you just said, Nissan have nothing to do with the previous DW anymore, thus proving how ridiculous the branding all was. Once Lola sold you a car, it was still a Lola, even if they didn't have anything to do with it. Yet Nissan move onto the next vehicle, and suddenly the old one isn't called a Nissan anymore? Is it because the only Nissan thing about it was the big sticker on the side?

This new project is identical to the old. It's still RML developed and run, with Nissan branding and funding, and when they move onto the next project it'll have the Nissan branding stripped so they can move onto the next cool thing to market to children. They did exactly what we said they'd do with the original DW, and they'll do it with this one too. We're not daft.

Author:  Fish88 [ Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:35 pm ]
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ellis wrote:
We're not daft.


The die-hard fans like us not. But the media and mainstream fans will love this shit again. I wouldn't be surprised if they crash on purpose to get sympathy points like last year.

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Author:  deggis [ Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:27 pm ]
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ellis wrote:
RML developed, again. Nismo branding. Open engine specs? Of course it has open engine specs

Point was that the new DW apparently doesn't have a combustion engine at this point (plan is to test electric solutions first, whatever that means), so thus it can't have a rebadge engine either. :p What I said was just factual, I agree with the branding crap.

And speaking of which, here is more sorrow for eyes and ears with Darren Cox's annoying voice. They plan to show run it at WEC Fuji.


Author:  ellis [ Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:30 pm ]
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They said it was going to be a hybrid, then it was going to be all electric. But given current battery technology, electric race cars aren't even possible for sprint racing nevermind endurance racing. If RML Can design a very quick battery hot swap system then this project is worth it. But then again, it's still only being funded because the car is shaped like a big rubber penis and obeys no rules, rather than it has potential as an actual competitive vehicle.

The American Coupe certainly has an petrol motor. But Nissan are pretending they didn't have anything to do with that one.

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