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2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
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Author:  ellis [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

He was pretty far down the inside of the Starworks car there. At what point does it become the first cars fault? #1 Audi wasn't even close to alongside, the #2 was right there.

Author:  Juihi [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

Hard to say really, I think it's more of a racing incident at this stage

Author:  ellis [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

Audi lost this one on pure pace. 10 minutes to go, 6 second gap and rising.

Author:  Gaara [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

Toyota win.

Author:  iks [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

Good to see Toyota win again. :)

It's good to not always see the same winner (Audi). Competition is GOOD (alluding to Vettel in 2011).

Author:  Artur Craft [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:07 am ]
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ellis wrote:
Audi lost this one on pure pace. 10 minutes to go, 6 second gap and rising.


They better increase funding/development for 2013, because Toyota already raised the level

I'm very glad with TS030's presence in WEC. The car is fast, beautiful and adds to competition. I just wish Toyota were more fan friendly and would provide things as onboard stream as well as the Audi, though :/

Author:  EsbenT [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

Hopefully they'll learn soon enough :)

Author:  ellis [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

Audi have never turned up with the fastest car. They've always won through efficiency and strategy. The problem they've had is that doesn't work in 6 hour races, and Peugeot, and now Toyota, consistently beat them. But turn up at Le Mans, and despite being the under dog on speed, Audi almost always came out on top.

I expect no different next year. In the 6 hour events, Toyota will be the favourite. In 24 hours, watch Audi do what they do best. But Toyota seem less panicy and...French, than Toyota. So it'll be a tougher challenge for them.

Author:  Fish88 [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

ellis wrote:
I expect no different next year. In the 6 hour events, Toyota will be the favourite. In 24 hours, watch Audi do what they do best. But Toyota seem less panicy and...French, than Toyota. So it'll be a tougher challenge for them.


Well the team is run by Oreca.

But agreed. Audi never won on pure speed. 2008 and 2011 as best example (especially 2008 with the R10 was a disgrace for Peugeot).

Author:  fede999 [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

Damn it, I fell asleep during F1 and lost the whole race :x

Author:  deggis [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

Fish88 wrote:
Well the team is run by Oreca.

I dunno if you can say so. About 20 people from Oreca have been integrated to TMG. De Chaunac himself is "competition director".

Artur Craft wrote:
I just wish Toyota were more fan friendly and would provide things as onboard stream as well as the Audi, though :/

It doesn't have a camera. It had at Le Mans, but not after that. Ask most competent tv producer ACO why.

Speaking of which:


Author:  Artur Craft [ Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

deggis wrote:
Artur Craft wrote:
I just wish Toyota were more fan friendly and would provide things as onboard stream as well as the Audi, though :/

It doesn't have a camera. It had at Le Mans, but not after that. Ask most competent tv producer ACO why.


Yeah, I noticed that. There is no TS030 onboard on WEC's broadcast at all, except at Le Mans where it had. This is utterly stupid tbh. When Peugeot was on the championship, they also provided onboards as Audi.

Btw, China should provide one of the most entertaining races of the calendar, going by F1

Author:  SecretAgentHarvick [ Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

Mattzel just retweeted a tweet saying the Deltawing with Gunner Jeannette behind the wheel has apparently flipped in a test today after contact with a GTC car!

He is apparently OK, but where was this test being held? Road Atlanta?

edit: It was at Road Atlanta.

http://www.racer.com/deltawing-crashes- ... le/264094/

Author:  Mattzel89 [ Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

https://twitter.com/TrevorAndrusko/stat ... to/1/large

rolled it under the bridge

Author:  Gaara [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:17 am ]
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Author:  Chris A [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

Scary seeing his head so near the ground like that. Hopefully it wasn't as close as the onboard makes it look.


Also, I think the videos prove the Porsche driver was at fault, rather clearly too. Totally contradicts his claim that he had the wheel straight and that he was the one getting hit.

Author:  makeyourself [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

yikes 8O

Author:  VirtuaIceMan [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

was it really a 7G impact :-p

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103508

Author:  RtN [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

Really don't like the fact his head was bouncing along the ground. Need a better rollhoop on that thing.

Author:  deggis [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2012 WEC/ALMS/ELMS | GRAND-AM AND ALMS MERGE

Wow, it flips so easily. <pretending to be surprised>

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