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Well, I don't think all 380,000 were at the Snake Pit. And in Monza there were trash bins near all the gates, so it was pretty easy to leave the trash where they belong.

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I just never understood this. There's a tendency to consider that being orderly/repsectful, and not leaving your trash behind you like an animal, means you don't know how to party and should relax a bit, when really the two could certainly be done. An adult person can get shitfaced, party hard, yet leave with a trashbag.

I get the occasional beer can or plastic bag slipping here and there, but during the live coverage of the race, the camera panned over people in the infield grass and it looked like they were having picnic in a fucking landfill, how could they even enjoy sitting there like animals in their own filth.

Well I get pretty hyperbolic at times but you get the drift

That's exactly the most of the racing events I've been into differents from the "get wasted" -parties are. Motorsports events are clean, even if it's a place where 100,000 people are. Getting wasted parties...well, it only takes like as little ten people. A small festival for like thousand people can leave as much behind as a race weekend on a classic circuit that affects a ten or hundred times more people.

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I don't get the hate towards Bell, honestly. Sure he was over aggressive at times but he did nothing blatant. He's just a guy who's reaching the end of his career and would like to bag the Indy 500. He only 'caused' Sage's shunt but even Sage admitted he wished he hadn't gone 2 wide at that point and that it was a racing incident.

Some people leave trash behind at sporting, musical and other events. It happens. That's why event companies hire contractors to clean up once an event has finished. End of story.

Let's not overreact and pretend that this is an exclusive issue to Indianapolis in 2016. Because it's not.

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Old news is new news: The infield of the Indy 500 has always had a reputation as, um, a sort of "redneck Mardi Gras". (Stereotypes aside, it means that there's at least a section that is pretty much one big "getting wasted" party... which, like any other big "getting wasted" party, is going to leave behind a big mess of trash.)

Here's an article about how it will take up 10 days to clean up the 6.6 million pounds of trash at Indy. This article was written in 1975. (I've heard that the Snake Pit was, um, a *lot* wilder back in those days...)

Churchill Downs is left in the same state after the Derby. And similar to Indy, the morning-after cleanup is taken care of by various volunteer groups.

By the way, I noticed in my Twitter feed that Rossi had to pay a visit to Fox and Friends following the win.

So...perhaps that will be of some relief to Carlos Munoz (and the other 31 drivers who lost).

Should see the state of Epsom Downs the day after the Derby, and that's an event that if you have to ask how much the car park is, you can't afford it....

haha ok sorry guys, i wasnt exactly saying its something new for this year, obviously when you have a group of people together there is gonna be a big mess. It was related to the topic and some of the pictures were just weird/crazy to me. Seriously, why were there multiple pictures of just single shoes laying around?? Does it fall off and you say "Oh well, i have one more, i'll be fine!" Lol.

On this point, I didn't get the aggressive pit exits from the leaders really. You're on a superspeedway where you can seemingly easily reclaim a couple positions on the track, the whole field is under yellow, and there are 100 laps left. Why race your opponent out of the pits so hard that you drift to the fast lane and get race-ending damage/penalty? Had he slotted behind Hunter-Reay in the left lane and accepted the loss, he wouldn't have been two laps down

You could also say had Hunter-Reay's crew held him for 2 seconds instead of releasing him immediately into traffic that was already two abreast in a pitlane hardly wide enough for two cars, then Bell wouldn,t have hit him either.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing

I don't get the hate either, fans cry out for characters and people who race hard (he was aggressive, but did nothing wrong overall) instead of following their team mate home, those fans get their wish, then complain about it.... flawed logic seems it.

You're surprised by that?

Nope.

Yeah, some people have weird (and seemingly, er, expensive to me, like abandoning random shoes / furniture / grills) ways of partying.

Hey, at least they aren't burning Greyhound buses, like "partiers" did in 1974 at Watkins Glen's Bog during the US GP.

QFT, haha. Cringed a bit when I saw that. Times like this it's a shame that Letterman has retired his show, and Colbert is on vacation (and isn't even a petrolhead). Read that the race's TV ratings were down from last year, but I guess many of the TV absences were actually at the track this time.

What's not to get? It's a show populated with garden-variety conservative dipshits. So, the drivers who lost didn't have to to there.

Would have been especially hilarious seeing them trying to act interested and friendly interviewing an immigrant winner (Munoz) just before or after another fucking Trump phone-in.

I'm a conservative dipshit then.

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