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Author:  mclaren2008 [ Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:07 am ]
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CART didn't have the Indy 500

Author:  LucasWheldon [ Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:16 pm ]
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Coldtyre wrote:
Anyway we're not rewriting history... This has the merit to have gotten the crash-horny 11yo I was back then to get interested in CART and oval racing :p



haha the crash that got me into open wheel oval racing was the one that ended Fittipaldi racing career later that, a huge shunt with flames and so. Liked CART more than F1 because it had more crashes

Author:  Cartman [ Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:09 am ]
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Author:  NVirkkula [ Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:29 pm ]
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I think this channel is ok.

Author:  Cartman [ Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:07 am ]
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Author:  racer612008 [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:01 am ]
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Author:  racer612008 [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:25 pm ]
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Author:  iks [ Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:01 am ]
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Michael Andretti's first CART race was at the Caesar's Palace "oval". Never realized that. Love these mid 80s CART races.


Author:  sennadesillva [ Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:09 pm ]
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Author:  NVirkkula [ Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:06 am ]
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This channel is worth to subscribe.

Author:  LucasWheldon [ Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:16 am ]
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part 4 is up

Author:  electrodevo [ Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:04 am ]
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LucasWheldon wrote:
part 4 is up


Pity that IMHO unfortunately the author's IRL bias really showed in this one.

He kind of glossed over the poor safety of the early IRL cars (several major injuries), the poor attendance of any IRL track that didn't have the "you must buy IRL tickets to buy NASCAR" deal, and the poor TV ratings of *all* open wheel events aside from the Indy 500. Also, IMHO, the safety issues of IRL's "pack racing" days were glossed over until the Weldon crash (and then only mentioned briefly) in favor of an "exciting racing" narrative. (IRL's downforce heavy pack racing always was somewhat controversial, IMHO.)

(Good series overall though, everyone has a bias and it's just something to keep in mind. :) )

Author:  iks [ Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:32 pm ]
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electrodevo wrote:
LucasWheldon wrote:
part 4 is up


Pity that IMHO unfortunately the author's IRL bias really showed in this one.

He kind of glossed over the poor safety of the early IRL cars (several major injuries), the poor attendance of any IRL track that didn't have the "you must buy IRL tickets to buy NASCAR" deal, and the poor TV ratings of *all* open wheel events aside from the Indy 500. Also, IMHO, the safety issues of IRL's "pack racing" days were glossed over until the Weldon crash (and then only mentioned briefly) in favor of an "exciting racing" narrative. (IRL's downforce heavy pack racing always was somewhat controversial, IMHO.)

(Good series overall though, everyone has a bias and it's just something to keep in mind. :) )


Yeah I stopped when he said "the quality of racing was high" when talking about the early 2000s IRL. :lol: :whistling:

Author:  LucasWheldon [ Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:15 pm ]
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yeah quality of racing was so high that Chip Ganassi went there are raped the field on the first try

Author:  Gabriel [ Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:39 pm ]
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iks wrote:
electrodevo wrote:
LucasWheldon wrote:
part 4 is up


Pity that IMHO unfortunately the author's IRL bias really showed in this one.

He kind of glossed over the poor safety of the early IRL cars (several major injuries), the poor attendance of any IRL track that didn't have the "you must buy IRL tickets to buy NASCAR" deal, and the poor TV ratings of *all* open wheel events aside from the Indy 500. Also, IMHO, the safety issues of IRL's "pack racing" days were glossed over until the Weldon crash (and then only mentioned briefly) in favor of an "exciting racing" narrative. (IRL's downforce heavy pack racing always was somewhat controversial, IMHO.)

(Good series overall though, everyone has a bias and it's just something to keep in mind. :) )


Yeah I stopped when he said "the quality of racing was high" when talking about the early 2000s IRL. :lol: :whistling:


In terms of entertainment, it was, actually.

EDIT: Entertaining in the way of constant risk of having a major incident, but entertaining anyway,

Author:  Gabriel [ Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:44 pm ]
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Was talking with John Oreovicz over on Twitter via DM, pretty much asking him for information of where could I get his book, without having to pay double for it, to have it shipped to Chile. I was half expecting a free copy, to no success.

We got to talking about Salazar (because Chile heh).

He wrote me this: "I'll never forget when he broke his leg at Orlando in the IRL. He was screaming in pain, and Tony George stood a few yards away casually reading a USA Today newspaper".

Found it a bit unsettling.

Author:  pending [ Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:56 am ]
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I would really love that book. Hopefully once it's released it'll pop up on book depository. That's where I got Beast, Black Noon and Rapid Response from. It did take over a month to arrive, but hey, free shipping.

Author:  Gabriel [ Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:28 pm ]
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pending wrote:
I would really love that book. Hopefully once it's released it'll pop up on book depository. That's where I got Beast, Black Noon and Rapid Response from. It did take over a month to arrive, but hey, free shipping.


I bought it already on Book Depository. It's available for pre-order, since it's being released in may.

Author:  racer612008 [ Thu May 13, 2021 11:09 pm ]
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Author:  Cheeveer [ Tue May 18, 2021 4:04 pm ]
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I was today years old when I learned that Michael Andretti ran in the Monza 500km WTCC race together with Alessandro Nannini. Classified 16th. Huh.

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