But it's not that black and white
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| Author: | Schumifan [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2024 IndyCar Series Discussion |
"Unfortunately the software was not removed"... right so it was all a big accident, and the drivers were just pressing the button on the restarts for the lols? |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2024 IndyCar Series Discussion |
Well if it's disabled for restarts perhaps some drivers still press it purely for their own psychological boost. |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:59 am ] |
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Even when they're not on the track Dixon is so lucky |
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| Author: | Juihi [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:40 am ] |
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McLaughlin's statement |
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| Author: | RtN [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:42 am ] |
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Gaara wrote: Well if it's disabled for restarts perhaps some drivers still press it purely for their own psychological boost. |
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| Author: | MotoKris1 [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:39 am ] |
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They should have P2P like in Toca Race Driver 3 mod that gives you jumping boost |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:05 am ] |
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go back to seconds rather than number of presses like Champ Car |
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| Author: | MaTT [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:31 am ] |
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Racer.com article on this stuff A very interesting quote: Quote: RACER also understands at least one team raised its concern regarding Penske drivers illegally using P2P in 2023 and went as far as sending the series onboard video clips of what it considered abnormal button use for IndyCar to review. Hmm. Methinks this might get a bit messy. |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:57 am ] |
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I smell a rat |
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| Author: | RtN [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:09 pm ] |
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If Pruett's guess about spoofing the 'ON' signal is correct, then that opens up quite a few questions. In theory, it would allow P2P to be used on any track, at any time. Including ovals. There is also a clip floating around of Newgarden's pass on Herta whilst he was using the button illegally - the lights do not come on. Could be a glitch. Might not be. --------------------- Separately, it looks like whoever was orchestrating it intended for all 3 drivers to use it, and Power chose not to. If they were cutting him out and not wanting him to benefit, why modify his car in the same way? |
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| Author: | deggis [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2024 IndyCar Series Discussion |
Juihi wrote: McLaughlin's statement How does one not gain "any time advantage" while gaining extra horsepower? |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:21 pm ] |
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Luca Ghiotto to DCR is rather random https://www.indycar.com/news/2024/04/04-25-ghiotto-dcr |
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| Author: | Soul Reaver [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:05 pm ] |
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deggis wrote: Juihi wrote: McLaughlin's statement How does one not gain "any time advantage" while gaining extra horsepower? My guess is that he acknowledge that did not gain or lost any positions because of the help. |
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| Author: | ZeroX [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:16 pm ] |
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It's your classic "straw man fallacy". The fact is Scotty boy, you used the push to pass system in a situation that was not allowed. Whether you passed anyone or gained a time advantage is not the issue here. There's not many drivers or organistations in motorsport left with any integrity is there? I would have more respect for the guy if he just came out and said "yeah we tried to gain an unfair advantage and we got caught". Just another driver to add to the shit list. |
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| Author: | FiatFan83 [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:55 pm ] |
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FiatFan83 wrote: I just realized that this was for St Pete! WTH took so long for them to do this? Yeah, go ahead and laugh, this series is a joke. Okay, I was working on a machine and posting in between tests and I totally glossed over the details. Sent from my SM-G781U1 using Tapatalk Not announcing the penalty until now makes sense, and F Team Penske. This isn't The Beast, but just flat out cheating. Sent from my SM-G781U1 using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Chris A [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:47 pm ] |
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ZeroX wrote: It's your classic "straw man fallacy". The fact is Scotty boy, you used the push to pass system in a situation that was not allowed. Whether you passed anyone or gained a time advantage is not the issue here. There's not many drivers or organistations in motorsport left with any integrity is there? I would have more respect for the guy if he just came out and said "yeah we tried to gain an unfair advantage and we got caught". Just another driver to add to the shit list. I think that's a little harsh on him. I am not partial to him or anything, but I think it's a reasonable urge for a driver in his position to point out that he didn't benefit from the infraction, especially when he's not arguing against the penalty. |
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| Author: | ZeroX [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:44 pm ] |
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Chris A wrote: ZeroX wrote: It's your classic "straw man fallacy". The fact is Scotty boy, you used the push to pass system in a situation that was not allowed. Whether you passed anyone or gained a time advantage is not the issue here. There's not many drivers or organistations in motorsport left with any integrity is there? I would have more respect for the guy if he just came out and said "yeah we tried to gain an unfair advantage and we got caught". Just another driver to add to the shit list. I think that's a little harsh on him. I am not partial to him or anything, but I think it's a reasonable urge for a driver in his position to point out that he didn't benefit from the infraction, especially when he's not arguing against the penalty. Maybe, but I am fucking sick of hearing the "yeah we cheated but it didn't work so it doesn't matter" stance that people use when they are caught. It doesn't matter that you didn't get any apparent "benefit" from your cheating, the fact is, you cheated. That's literally it. |
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| Author: | Juihi [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:00 pm ] |
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But it's not that black and white
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:43 pm ] |
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Gaara wrote: Coyne found the biggest bank account |
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| Author: | pending [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:02 pm ] |
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Hm, interesting and a bit weird (maybe it's me) press conf from Newgarden. |
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