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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:58 pm 
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Jesus they are pretty horrendous injuries. Without knowing the severity of the neck and spinal cord injuries I just hope that he is able to recover to have somewhat of a normal life (hoping not a Christopher Reeve situation).



When hearing broken neck people always assume the person is paralyzed but thats not always the case. My ex father-in-law fell down once due to alcohol and also broke his neck. He drove to the hospital himself the next day. Which ofcourse freaked everyone out at the hospital but still.


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On a lighter note:

Pato O'Ward visor cam & interview from his test at Sonoma



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Man, that's a really gruesome list of injuries (though I suspect there's probably more they haven't mentioned - concussion, ligaments/tendons etc) for Wickens.

I really hope we get to see him in a car again but, more than anything, I hope he makes a recovery that means he's not in permanent pain.


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The fact that they inform the spinal cord injury's extent is unknown, I'd think it's not much about "Can he move his extremities?", but a "We don't know how much the movement has been compromised".

I'd think that a test to determine if he can feel his legs/arms, has been made already?

Just an opinion from someone who isn't a neurosurgeon or has any knowledge on the matter.


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The only positive signal is Sam Schmidt promising to keep car ready for him when he's ready to get back. And they even talk about full recovery.

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No matter the amount of time it takes for his full recovery, we will hold that seat for him.


That's very specific choice of words. While it will be a long recovery, it sounds like it's going to be a full recovery.

Since I'm not a neurosurgeon or a doctor, I can only speculate that maybe not determing the severity of the spinal cord injury is "paused" due other injuries, medication or time needed to heal.

When Robert apparently spends most if not all of his time on a hospital bed, his musle weight is dropping significantly. This will of course lenghten the whole recovery process so that it's difficult to tell if he need weeks or months. At least they're not talking about years.

Trying to stay positive and optimistic here. I don't want think the negative out comes, since we'll hear about them in time if that's the case.

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Maybe he can't move his extremities (yet). I refer again to the case of Tomoaki Honma, who might be a good parallel;

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On March 3, Honma was injured during a match, while taking a rope-hung DDT from Jado. Following the move, Honma could not get up and the match was immediately stopped, before he was taken backstage on a stretcher.[37] Reportedly, Honma was able to speak and move his head, but not his arms or legs.[38] The following day, NJPW announced that Honma had injured his cervical vertebrae.[39] On March 6 it was announced that Honma had regained movement in his lower extremities and could grasp objects with his hands. Honma vowed to recover from the injury and return to the ring.[40] On March 31, Honma announced he had successfully undergone surgery on his spinal canal.[41] The following month, Honma stated he was looking to return to the ring in the fall of 2017.[42] He was discharged in June after spending three and a half months in the hospital.[43]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomoaki_Honma

It took Honma 3 days for him to regain movement in his arms and legs, and that was before his invasive surgery (which in Wickens' case will likely have inflamed the spinal cord further and would therefore mean it will take longer for the swelling to go down and the nature of the damage to be completely understood).

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Yeaa, since he'll be on meds it'd be hard to test for feeling in his arms and legs wouldn't it?


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Especially considering both of them are broke and likely in some sort of traction themselves. I also remember there's some weird science stuff about casts stopping feeling, when I broke my wrist as a kid it would itch, but when I'd stick a pen up the cast to scratch it, I couldn't feel the pen, and got told off by the doctor for doing it because you can't feel inside a cast due to the lack of air, or something like that and as the doc put it, I could be stabbing myself and not feel it.


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Frye hopes to have the new engines for 2021 tested starting in the summer of 2020 in the current car.
https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news ... 09/?nrt=86


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I wonder if Niccolò Zanardi will or has ever raced cars? Can't find anything but he sure looks a lot like his dad:
https://twitter.com/nikzanzanardi?lang=en


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From Millers Mailbag on Racer.com:

https://racer.com/2018/09/05/robin-mill ... ing-hpd/4/

Q: So you recently wrote that you are sitting on a story that is going to make every IndyCar fan very happy. So is that in reference to COTA in 2019, or is there something else on the horizon we can look forward to?

Jim, Indy

RM: Oh no, something much better, and it will surface in the next month.


This COULD be Alfa or Genesis (Kia) joining in. Or something completely different. Or just McLaren and Alonso.

While I doubt IC would add a race to the 2019 schedule after the original release, but if it's on the schedule / future event side of things (2020?).

Fontana has a announcement on October 14th
https://www.facebook.com/AutoClubSpeedw ... 43/?type=3

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Smoke was offered a 500 ride with RLLR. Smoke wants to run a oval race before Indy though first
https://motorsports.nbcsports.com/2018/ ... im-a-ride/

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Vasser-Sullivan has purchased a new chassis on the IndyCar side of things, along with their possible sports car effort.
https://racer.com/2018/09/09/vasser-sul ... a-program/


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Alfa / FIAT has been swirling around the rumor mill for years.


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More fuel to the fire for the possible Buenos Aires / Argentina race proposal


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This is a bit third-hand but I think Miller may be referring to a possible return to Surfers Paradise


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More fuel to the fire for the possible Buenos Aires / Argentina race proposal

Is this plan a street circuit?

There's obviously the old GP circuit. Probably not changed a lot since the 1990s, would need upgrades.

edit: Turismo Carretera still uses the old long configuration, in these death trap cars :ohmy:



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Alfa / FIAT has been swirling around the rumor mill for years.


Unfortunately the man with the most desire and power to make that happen is now in a box in the ground, so the idea of FCA in Indycar will stay a pipe dream.

Although, with that said, the new boss did put Leclerc in a Ferrari because the old one wanted it done, so...

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deggis wrote:
racer612008 wrote:
More fuel to the fire for the possible Buenos Aires / Argentina race proposal

Is this plan a street circuit?

There's obviously the old GP circuit. Probably not changed a lot since the 1990s, would need upgrades.

edit: Turismo Carretera still uses the old long configuration, in these death trap cars :ohmy:



They plan on doing something in Circuit #7 in the Oscar Galvez circuit.

Can't post pictures from work, but here is it: http://www.racingcircuits.info/south-america/argentina/buenos-aires.html#.W5gHU85KjDc


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the full track could be seen as the south american Road America, fast sweeping corners

but I guess they wouldn't sanction a track for IndyCar with unleveled runoffs that could cause this

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James B wrote:
This is a bit third-hand but I think Miller may be referring to a possible return to Surfers Paradise


:8:

But, I can't see Indycar being happy about running an event 6 weeks past the end of its season, nor Surfers returning the date to it's original march/april start of the season event to suit indycar. OR if the shorter circuit is suitable for Indycars

Eh, we can dream.

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