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Very fraught and immense. To this day I cannot understand Menu's logic for believing that move was on. Still, it was brave and made the race a classic though.

kals wrote:

Very fraught and immense. To this day I cannot understand Menu's logic for believing that move was on. Still, it was brave and made the race a classic though.

Rydell had a think about "doing a Plato" and making it three wide for a moment there didn't he?
Would've been a much bigger accident in all likelyhood.

The Demon Tweeks M3 probably one of the most iconic M3 liveries of that era, along with the Mobil1 car from Prodrive. It's fitting that Roland was the driver of such a famous car, but sad his BTCC exploits aren't well known enough.

Today marks the 18th anniversary of Roland Ratzenberger's passing, and whilst most remember him for his all too brief foray in F1, I like to remember him for this...

[youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJMHJRKDt5o[/youtubeidiot]

RIP Roland

My favourite btcc drivers was yvan muller and John cleland .... Now it's my hometown boy Mat Jackson

Author:	kals [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:20 pm ]
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Very fraught and immense. To this day I cannot understand Menu's logic for believing that move was on. Still, it was brave and made the race a classic though.

Author:	pimmy [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:19 am ]
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Mike Smith

Author:	kart99 [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:04 pm ]
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Metzo wrote: best race I was going to post this but you beat me to it. But, boy what a race that was. Incredible.

Author:	kals [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:07 pm ]
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Mike Smith was a bit of a character during his seasons in BTCC. He was always getting caught up in some action, either taking someone off, getting chewed out by Frank Sytner or being complained about by most of the drivers on the grid. What I loved about that Soper and Rouse dual was that it was very clean. Soper never tried to block Rouse and Rouse only started to squeeze (not block) Soper on the last lap. Incredible stuff. It seems today's drivers ignored don't model themselves on that, instead driving more like Mike O'Brien and Mike Smith.

Author:	codename_47 [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:29 pm ]
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Metzo wrote: best race No Yaytree, worst race kals wrote: Very fraught and immense. To this day I cannot understand Menu's logic for believing that move was on. Still, it was brave and made the race a classic though. Rydell had a think about "doing a Plato" and making it three wide for a moment there didn't he? Would've been a much bigger accident in all likelyhood.

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Author:	Cheeveer [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:56 pm ]
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Metzo wrote: best race awesometastic tast pimmy wrote: so is this

Author:	kals [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:04 am ]
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codename_47 wrote: kals wrote: Very fraught and immense. To this day I cannot understand Menu's logic for believing that move was on. Still, it was brave and made the race a classic though. Rydell had a think about "doing a Plato" and making it three wide for a moment there didn't he? Would've been a much bigger accident in all likelyhood. Rydell was very sensible up until the point he decided to try and hold an impossible line over the grass on the inside of the corner, but I suppose you can say he was taking some avoidance of the incident ahead. Another great race from 1992, the penultimate race of the season [youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CyEE6vgF-s[/youtubeidiot] [youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqAiKrGXiIQ[/youtubeidiot] And then some action from the final round of the 1999 season [youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ9S2CoweYU[/youtubeidiot] I was there that day. Race 1 was halted thanks to some of the heaviest rain I ever experienced at a race circuit. Race 2 made up for it.

Author:	kals [ Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:32 pm ]
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1993 FIA Touring World Cup from Monza, the day the small Andy Rouse Engineering squad beat the European manufacturer superteams. [youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwmDj5tcwkY[/youtubeidiot] The team repeated the feat in 1994.

Author:	codename_47 [ Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:07 am ]
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That's the thing I mentioned on page 1 that really frustrates me about touring car racing now, the lack of a signature event for either the BTCC or the WTCC (or, ideally, both ) If it was just a BTCC only thing I think I'd definitely want it at Thruxton because of the high speed nature of the track. I'd try to invite as many top names from around the world in the same way Bathurst/Surfers manage to get international names around and maybe go for a well publicised purse if such things can be arranged. The only problem in my, as alluded to earlier (KALS ) warped mind is when to have it in the season. Later in the year and you risk teams running out of budget/crash damage expenses and even poor weather ruining the event Having it at the start of the year means you risk a thin field as the teams haven't got their budget together yet and skip the "exhibition" event in favour of the championship proper. But I like the way NASCAR has its biggest signature event right off the bat to gain new fans attention and try to keep them for the remainder of the year. I have no idea why they follow up the all-action Daytona 500 with the no-action cookie cutter tracks to completely bore any casual fans out of the sport before they head somewhere decent again but hey, that's another argument for another thread So something like the Thruxton 500 with 2 qualifying races on the Saturday of the race weekend before the main event on the Sunday would go down a treat. It'd never happen, of course, but it is something the BTCC bizarrely lacks atm.

Author:	pimmy [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:41 am ]
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Full coverage of the 1994 World Cup: 1980 season review: Love the commentary. Breathe, man!

Author:	kals [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:37 am ]
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SuperTouring.co.uk is the man

Author:	kals [ Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:51 pm ]
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Today marks the 18th anniversary of Roland Ratzenberger's passing, and whilst most remember him for his all too brief foray in F1, I like to remember him for this... [youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJMHJRKDt5o[/youtubeidiot] RIP Roland

Author:	pimmy [ Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:15 pm ]
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Ratzenberger was a pretty good touring car driver. He won quite a few races in JTCC in the Auto Tech M3, and that was a very competitive series. He also managed to win his class at Thruxton in '88, the only non-Sytner win of the year.

Author:	kals [ Tue May 01, 2012 1:59 am ]
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The Demon Tweeks M3 probably one of the most iconic M3 liveries of that era, along with the Mobil1 car from Prodrive. It's fitting that Roland was the driver of such a famous car, but sad his BTCC exploits aren't well known enough.

Author:	OS [ Thu May 17, 2012 2:56 pm ]
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The best part of that race comes later when a Turbo blows on a Sierra between Stirling's and Clark, everyone slows up and Ratzenberger goes flying through the smoke, weaving past the slower cars ... epic.

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Author:	Eddington mains [ Tue May 01, 2012 5:14 am ]
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kals wrote: The Demon Tweeks M3 probably one of the most iconic M3 liveries of that era, along with the Mobil1 car from Prodrive. It's fitting that Roland was the driver of such a famous car, but sad his BTCC exploits aren't well known enough. And last time I went to the shop it was still sat in there like a shrine to Roland...

Author:	Aston_Martin [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:50 pm ]
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My favourite btcc drivers was yvan muller and John cleland .... Now it's my hometown boy Mat Jackson

Author:	racer69 [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:41 pm ]
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kals wrote: Today marks the 18th anniversary of Roland Ratzenberger's passing, and whilst most remember him for his all too brief foray in F1, I like to remember him for this... [youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJMHJRKDt5o[/youtubeidiot] RIP Roland Ratzenberger brought Class B alive in 1988 with his drives in that car. Great stuff 1988 was a very 'international' year for the series (prior to the 90s i mean), with the likes of Eggenberger running a car, the ETCC Nissan making an appearance, the 'almost' appearance of the works Commodore etc...

Author:	kals [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:49 pm ]
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Aston_Martin wrote: My favourite btcc drivers was yvan muller and John cleland .... Now it's my hometown boy Mat Jackson Yes to Mat Jackson During the Cleland era I was never a fan but definitely an admirer. I was always a Will Hoy fan. But Cleland was certainly the most entertaining character in the BTCC paddock. I wish I could find some of the in-car audio from the early 90's, his comments were excellent and always very to the point. All I can find is this... [youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pVPyHpevFY[/youtubeidiot] Despite supporting Hoy in the 1992 finale, I have always felt the title was stolen from John. And yet at the 2009 finale Tim Harvey complained about the "team tactics" Matt Neal used to try and help Gio secure the crown...

Author:	codename_47 [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:04 pm ]
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Yes, but as Tim Harvey will point out every 2 weeks when he starts talking about it, he was already ahead of that accident so its not like that accident really gave him the championship like everyone seems to think.... However without it I guess you could argue Cleland would start closing up on Harvey, (if there was enough time left in the race, it's hard to tell with the editing...) but all that would change is the inevitable accident between the BMW and Vauxhall would've took place with Cleland and Harvey instead!